CNN Analyst on Presidential candidate Andrew Yang breaks down over gun violence After Event El Paso

CNN Analyst on Presidential candidate Andrew Yang breaks down over gun violence After Event El Paso


AND JEAN COSIN AND NEWS ANCHOR FOR UNIVISION. LET ME START WITH YOU. YOU HAVE KNOWN TUCKER FOR YEARS. IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE GUY YOU KNEW OR DID HE GET THE SENSE HE’S PLAYING TO FOX’S PRIME TIME AUDIENCE?>>WELL, YOU HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS AS LONG AS I HAVE. AND THE WAY YOU KEEP FRIENDS IS EVEN, YOU KNOW, YOU DISAGREE WITH IS YOU SORT OF SEPARATE. YES, I’M FRIENDS WITH TUCKER AND TUCKER IS A GREAT GUY. BUT THE TUCKER CARLSON PERSONALITY ON THE SHOW, I THINK, IS PLAYING TO AN AUDIENCE. AND THAT AUDIENCE IS LARGELY MALE, OLDER, WHITE, AGGRIEVED AND SORT OF KEYING IN ON THOSE GRIEVANCES IS SOMETHING I THINK HE’S BEEN DOING SINCE HE GOT A SHOW THERE. BUT HIS OLD BREAD AND BUTTER CERTAINLY WAS NOT RAISED POLITICS. IT WAS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, FREE SPEECH. HE WAS FAR MORE LIBERTARIAN THAN THE PUBLIC TUCKER CARLSON IS TODAY ON THE FOX SHOW. I THINK THAT’S MORE A FEATURE OF FOX AND ITS AUDIENCE THAN HIM. >>HE IS A SMART GUY. HE IS A GOOD WRITER. HE CAN BE CHARMING. BUT LIBERTARIAN IS THE OPPOSITE OF TRUMP’S NATIONALISM. >>POLAR, POLAR OPPOSITE. >>HOW MUCH OF THE PREPPY PERSONA WAS AN EARLY WARNING INDICATOR?>>I’M NOT SURE THAT IS A PERSONA. THAT IS HOW HE WAS. THAT’S HOW HE GREW UP. HE WENT TO PREP SCHOOL. HE WAS AN ACTUAL PREP SCHOOL GRADUATE. I THINK TUCKER IS AUTHENTIC TO HIMSELF. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE AUDIENCE THAT HE’S PLAYING TO IS A DIFFERENT ONE THAN HE WAS IN THE PAST. AND IN THE PAST, TUCKER WAS, AS YOU SAY, SMART, CHARMING, FUNNY, A GREAT WRITER. SO MUCH SO THAT HE WAS KNOWN FOR MAKING FRIENDS ACROSS THE AISLE. RACHEL MADDOW REALLY CULTIVATED HIS CAREER. IT IS WHY HE’S BEEN ABLE TO LIVE AND SWIM IN THIS POLITICAL WORLD FOR AS LONG AS HE HAS, MAKING FRIENDS WHO RESPECT HIM EVEN WHEN THEY DISAGREE WITH HIM. AGAIN, HE’S SO LOCKED INTO A NICHE AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW THAT IT IS SORT OF A ONE NOTE THAT YOU ARE HEARING. >>WHAT YOU DO WITH THE CAMERA, WHAT YOU DO WITH THE MICROPHONE YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR. YOU HAVE BEEN A GUEST ON TUCKER’S SHOW MANY TIMES. IS THIS TIME DIFFERENT, DECEMBER PIEBING WHITE NATIONALISM, WHITE SUPREMACY AS A HOAX, DOES IT CHANGE YOUR CALCULUS ABOUT GOING ON AIR?>>THE INTENTION WAS TO EXPOSE THE AUDIENCE TO A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW, ONE THEY WILL PROBABLY HEAR ANYWHERE WHERE THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION, GET THEIR NEWS. AND IT HAS TO BE SAID, NOT ONLY TUCKER’S RHETORIC, BUT ALSO THE PRESIDENT, THIS ANTI-LATINO HAVE NOW BEEN REPLACED BY VIOLENCE AND BULLETS. I THINK WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE CLEAR MORALITY ON THIS. AND THEY’RE IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WE SAW IN A PLACE LIKE EL PASO. THE MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WAS INSPIRED BY SOME OF THE WORDS, SOME OF THE RHETORIC COMING FROM THEM. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS DIFFERENT IN THE SENSE THAT IT’S NOW TRANSCENDING INTO VIOLENCE INTO BULLETS, INTO LOTS OF LIFE FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT CAME UNDER FIRE IN EL PASO. >>YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS A MORAL DECISION, OR WILL YOU MAKE THE DECISION TO CONTINUE GOING ON TUCKER’S SHOW ON FOX TO REACH OUT BEYOND, OR IS THIS A STEP TOO FAR FOR YOU?>>YOU KNOW, I HAVEN’T BEEN INVITED TO HIS SHOW AFTER EL PASO, BUT I CAN TELL YOU I’M NOT GOING BACK ON FOX SHOW, ON HIS SHOW, ON LAURA’S SHOW. NOT ONLY AS A JOURNALIST, BUT AS A HUMAN BEING RIGHT NOW, I DON’T THINK I HAVE THE MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS RHETORIC IS NOW BEING REPLACED BY, AGAIN, VIOLENCE AND BULLETS. AND IN THAT SENSE, LATINOS COMING UNDER ATTACK, IT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME TO GO ON AND EXPOSE MYSELF TO WHAT’S HAPPENING AT FOX. >>IT’S A BIG STATEMENT. ALL RIGHT. JANE, I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS. A MEMO WAS SENT TO FOX EMPLOYEES DENOUNCING DONALD TRUMP’S IMMIGRATION BAN SAYING IMMIGRATION IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF AMERICA’S STRENGTH AND PRAISING THE UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE OFFERED BY MANY PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THE U.S. IN SEARCH OF OPPORTUNITY FOR UNFETTERED SELF-EXPRESSION. WHAT’S CHANGE?>>IT’S A COMPLICATED ISSUE BECAUSE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FOX NEWS AND FOX AND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL HOSTS ON FOX NEWS IS A COMPLEX ONE. HOPE HICKS WHEN HE MOVED OVER TO WORK FOR FOX SENT A MEMO IN SUPPORT OF DONALD TRUMP’S CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM BILL. EXCEPT LATELY YOU STARTED TO HEAR A BUNCH OF HOSTS TALKING ABOUT THESE PEOPLE GOT OUT OF JAIL BECAUSE WITH DRUG CHARGES. AND, SO, I THINK THAT THE ABILITY OF THE FOX NEWS BOARD TO REALLY CURTAIL FOX NEWS HOSTS IS EXTREMELY LIMITED. AND I THINK IT’S BECAUSE TUCKER CARLSON IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY POPULAR PRIME TIME HOST, AS IS SCENE HANNITY. THOSE TWO ENTITIES ARE BETTER KNOWN AND BETTER LIKED BY THE AUDIENCE THAT FOX IS TRYING TO CULTIVATE THAN THE FOX BOARD PURPORTEDLY IN CHARGE. >>YEAH. AND YOU GET INTO THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS FEEDBACK LOOP THE WAY THAT AUDIENCE CAN’T BE CONTROLLED IN THE WAY THAT SOME FOLKS MIGHT THINK. YOU CREATED SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT. I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON A QUOTE FROM KELLYANNE CONWAY BECAUSE SHE TRIED TO DEFEND TUCKER CARLSON THIS WEEK SAYING THERE IS TOO MUCH WHITE SUPREMACY COVERAGE. >>I THINK PERHAPS WHAT TUCKER IS SAYING, BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK HIM, IS THAT THE OUTSIZED COVERAGE IT GETS VERSUS ALL FORMS OF HATE, ANTIFA, ANTI-SEMITISM AND ALL FORMS OF HATE HAVE TO REALLY BE REINED IN. >>DO YOU THINK ANTI-SEMITISM IS LESS COVERED THAN WHITE NATIONALISM, AND DO WE HAVE TO CHOOSE?>>WE COULD ALWAYS DEVOTE MORE COVERAGE TO ANTI-SEMITISM ESPECIALLY SINCE IT IS ON THE RISE, BUT SO IS WHITE SUPREMACY AND IT IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO COVER WHEN THE PEOPLE GIVING IT LIP SERVICE ARE NONE OTHER THAN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND SOME OF OUR LEADERS IN CONGRESS AND SOME OF OUR BIGGEST MEDIA FIGURES. IT IS IMPORTANT TO COVER THAT. AND I THINK WE’RE GIVING IT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ENOUGH COVERAGE. WE COULD COVER THIS MORE. I KNOW LAST NIGHT ON MY SHOW I HAD A REFORMED WHITE SUPREMACIST ON TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT’S A HOAX, WHETHER IT’S REAL. HE KNOWS OBVIOUSLY PERSONALLY IT’S VERY REAL. IT’S ON THE RISE. WE TALKED ABOUT IDENTIFYING IT. THOSE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS SHOULD BE HAD MORE OFTEN, NOT LESS OFTEN. TO KELLY AN’S POINT, THAT’S NOT WHAT TUCKER WAS SAYING. TUCKER WAS SAYING IT IS NOT ACTUALLY PROBLEM. WHY? I DON’T KNOW. BECAUSE IT’S NOT THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN AMERICA. THAT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S NOT REAL. SHE COULD SPIN IT TO BE A MEDIA ATTACK OR CRITIQUE, BUT IT WASN’T.>>JANE, WHAT’S YOUR TAKE?>>IT’S INTERESTING. ONE, WHITE NATIONAL AND ANTI-SEMITISM GO HAND IN HAND. IF WE REMEMBER THE TREE OF LIFE SHOOTING LAST WEEK, THE PERSON THAT COMMITTED THAT SHOOTING WAS A DEDICATED WHITE NATIONALIST THAT ATTACKED THE JEWISH COMMUNITY BECAUSE HE BELIEVED IN THE INVASION OF NONWHITE PEOPLE AND IMMIGRANTS. THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE CAN’T TALK ABOUT BOTH AND CONDEMN BOTH. I THINK ALSO ONE OF CARLSON’S POINTS WAS LIKE, OH, IF YOU PUT EVERY WHITE NATIONALIST IN AMERICA IN A STADIUM, IT WOULDN’T BE FULL. THE PEOPLE THAT COMMITTED THE ACTS OF SEPTEMBER 11th, YOU KNOW, IT’S NOT LIKE THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE BEHIND THAT ATTACK, BUT THEY STILL, YOU KNOW, CREATED THE MURDER OF 3,000 AMERICANS. YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INVOLVED SHOULD NOT BE HOW — YOU KNOW, HOW WE CONSIDER OR VIEW THE IMPACT OF WHITE NATIONALIST TERROR. WE CAN REMEMBER THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING IN JUST OVER 20 YEARS AGO, BUT WE CAN ALSO REMEMBER AGAIN AND AGAIN THESE FREQUENT ACTS OF MASS SHOOTING, LONE WOLVES ALL TIED TOGETHER BY A SPECIFIC IDEOLOGY, WHICH IS A TERRORIST IDEOLOGY. IT’S ALSO — IT’S STUNNING TO ME THAT WE’RE EVEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT’S REAL WHEN THE EL PASO SHOOTING HAPPENED LESS THAN SEVEN DAYS AGO. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE, YOU KNOW, WHO WERE MURDERED BY A WHITE NATIONALIST TERRORIST WHO DROVE MORE THAN 600 MILES TO TARGET MEXICANS, IN HIS OWN WORDS, THAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, BURIALS ARE STILL TAKING PLACE AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY INCONCEIVABLE TO ME TO BE HAVING THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION THAT’S ROOTED IN WHETHER OR NOT WHITE NATIONALISM IS REAL WHEN WE SEE THE BODY COUNT THAT IT’S CAUSED.>>THAT’S EXACTLY WHY APPROPRIATELY SPARKED FIRESTORM IS NOTEW ROOM, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF GENDER AND RACE. LATINOS REPRESENT 7% OF OUR NEWS ROOM WHEN WE’RE 17% OF THE POPULATION. BUT GENERATIONS, POINTS OF VIEW AND GEOGRAPHY. ONE OF THE BIGGEST LESSONS FROM THE 2016 CAMPAIGN WAS THE LACK OF COVERAGE FROM UNDERSTANDING FROM ONE OF THE REGIONS THAT DECIDED THE ELECTION. WE’RE MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE WITH THE BORDER AS THE BORDER HAS BEEN THE EPICENTER ON CULTURAL IMMIGRATION. WHAT’S MISSING FROM THAT DISCUSSION IS A POINT OF VIEW OF THE BORDER, THE VOICES OF JOURNALISTS LIKE THE ONES YOU HAVE ON TODAY AND WHO ARE SOME OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY COVERING THAT REGION.>>AN IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT INCLUS SIEVETY. NICOLE, YOU PUBLISHED A POWERFUL PIECE FOR CNN ABOUT RETURNING TO YOUR HOMETOWN IN THE AFTERMATH OF A MASS SHOOTING. WHAT DOES EL PASO HAVE TO TELL THE REST OF AMERICA ABOUT UNITY AND DIVERSITY?>>WELL, AS I MENTION IN MY ESSAY, I COVERED MASS SHOOTINGS NUMEROUS MASS SHOOTINGS BEFORE, AND ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT ABOUT HERE, ESPECIALLY THE COMMUNITY HERE, IS THAT HOW UNITED THEY ARE. YOU WILL SEE THEM SAY THINGS LIKE I GOT HERE THE DAY AFTER THE SHOOTING AND LIKE PEOPLE WERE COMING HERE TO PRAY. THEY WILL JUST TALK TO EACH OTHER AND LIKE EMBRACE EACH OTHER. AND THE COMMUNITY HAS REALLY COME TOGETHER FOR THIS IN WAYS THAT I ACTUALLY HADN’T SEEN BEFORE. AND IT SPEAKS TO HOW THIS COMMUNITY IS. I’M FROM HERE AND I GREW UP HERE. EVERYBODY WILL TALK TO YOU AT THE STORE. IF YOU HAVE A FLAT TIRE OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU JUST MET SOMEBODY, THEY WILL TALK TO YOU RIGHT AWAY. YOU KNOW, LIKE, IT’S A VERY, VERY WELCOMING COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS OBVIOUSLY TRANSPIRING HERE IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE SHOOTING. >>SO A TOWN WITH A BIG HEART SETTING A BIG EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF US. TIM, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE TRIED TO BRING THE MEDIA SAYING THAT WE CONTRIBUTED GREATLY TO THE ANGER AND RAGE BUILD UP OVER MANY YEARS. WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT?>>I WOULD JUST SAY THAT OUR FOCUS IS REALLY GETTING AWAY FROM THE RHETORIC AND REALLY ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT WORKING FOR THE USA TODAY NETWORK IS WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE STAFF. WE HAVE GOTTEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HELP FROM ALL OVER. WE HAVE A LOT OF HISPANIC JOURNALISTS ON THE GROUND TELLING THE REAL STORY. I JUST WOULD HOPE THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WOULD PROVIDE THE SAME KIND OF SUPPORT TO THE VICTIMS. THEY’RE THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY HURTING. THEY’RE THE ONES THAT NEED THE SUPPORT. IT’S NOT ABOUT JUST A QUICK SOUND BITE. IT’S ABOUT LASTING HELP TO HELP THESE FAMILIES RECOVER. >>ALL RIGHT. IF I MAY, YOU KNOW, THE MAN WHO COMMITTED THIS TERRIBLE CRIME DROVE TEN HOURS TO GO TO THE CITY OF EL PASO TO THIS WALMART. THEY BOTH REPRESENT A DAILY SOCIAL EXPERIMENT WHERE IMMIGRATION DEFINES NATIONAL IDENTITY AND IS NOT A THREAT TO IT. AGAIN, THE PRESIDENT DIDN’T PULL THE TRIGGER, BUT HE HAS BEEN POINTING AT THE TARGET, AT THAT SAME TAGT FOR TOO LONG. HE HAPPENS TO BE THE WRONG TARGET. HE WASN’T RADICALIZED BY ISLAM. HE CAME FROM DALLAS. AND LIKE MOST MASS MURDERS IN THIS COUNTRY, HE WAS A WHITE MALE WHO INSPIRED IDEAS OF WHITE NATIONALISM. >>WE WILL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>>NOW TURNING TO THE COVERAGE OF DONALD TRUMP’S BUS TO EL PASO, WHICH LEFT THE PRESIDENT FUMING, SLAMMING THE MEDIA ON TWITTER AND REACTION TO THE NEGATIVE PRESS SURROUNDING HIS HANDLING OF THE EL PASO AND DAY TAN SHOOTINGS, A BACKLASH THAT INTENSIFIED AFTER THESE SHOOTING SHOWING TRUMP SMILING NEXT TO SHOOTING VISITS. THE PRESIDENT WAS ALSO CAUGHT ON TAPE BRAGGING ABOUT THE CROWD SIZE AT HIS EL PASO RALLY SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. JOINING US IS THE EDITOR OF THE DAILY BEAST. THE PRESIDENT TRIES TO BLOCK REPORTERS FROM COVERING THE VISIT AND THEN COMPLAINS ABOUT THE COVERAGE. IS HE SETTING A TRAP FOR HIMSELF?>>THE WHITE HOUSE IS TRYING TO SHAPE THE NARRATIVE HERE AND SAYING THEY DIDN’T WANT THE PRESS IN. THIS WASN’T A PHOTO OP. MINUTES AFTER THE PRESIDENT LEAVES THE HOSPITAL AND DAYTON IN PARTICULAR, THEY RELEASE THIS VIDEO OF THE PRESIDENT SHAKING HANDS, HUGGING PEOPLE — >>WITH BACKGROUND MUSIC. >>THAT LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE A PHOTO OP. THEN YOU HAVE THESE OTHER VIDEOS WHERE HE’S BRAGGING ABOUT HIS CROWD SIZE THAT YOU MENTIONED AND SOME OF THE OTHER PHOTOS THAT COME OUT THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE THE PRESIDENT WAS ALL ABOUT HIMSELF RATHER THAN VICTIMS AND THE SURVIVORS OF THESE SHOOTINGS, WHICH IS WHERE THE FOCUS SHOULD BE. YES, IN PART HE IS SENDING A TRAP FOR HIMSELF BECAUSE THE INFORMATION WE HAVE COMING OUT IS ALL WE HAVE TO GO BY. >>I WANT TO CALL OUT ONE MORE THING. KELLYANNE CONWAY SAYING THE MEDIA IGNORED THE WARNING ABOUT WHITE NATIONALIST TERRORISM. THAT’S NOT TRUE. TAKE A LISTEN. >>I LOOKED AT THE TESTIMONY OF FBI DIRECTOR CHRIS RAY. >>CHRISTOPHER WRAY SAYS WHITE SUPREMACIST VIOLENCE IS A MOTIVATION FOR MORE AND MORE CASES OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM. >>WHITE SUPREMACY IS MIND MOST OF THE DOMESTIC TERRORISM INVESTIGATIONS. >>ONCE AGAIN WE SEE ALTERNATIVE FACTS DON’T MATCH REALITY. WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO COVER THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN THEY DO SO MUCH TO DIVIDE?>>YOU HAVE TO POINT OUT THE VAST HYPOCRISY WE SEE. THE PRESIDENT DOES IT HIMSELF. HE SAYS SOMETHING ON A TELL PROMPTER AND THEN TURNS AROUND TO HIS TWITTER FEED AND WE GET TO SEE WHAT HE REALLY FEELS. SO WE ARE COMPELLED TO SHOW THE DISDANCE THERE. >>GREAT TO SEE YOU. THANKS FOR JOINING US. >>>UP NEXT, EL PASO SPARKED ONE OF THE BIGGEST DEBATES IN JOURNALISM. HOW DO YOU FAIRLY COVER A >>>WELCOME BACK TO “RELIABLE SOURCES.” “THE NEW YORK TIMES” IS COMING UNDER FIRE FROM THE LEFT THIS WEEK FOR THIS HEADLINE. NOW A FIRESTORM OF CRITICISM ENSUED AND THE TRUMP CHANGED THE HEADLINE TO THIS, WHICH HELPED BUT DIDN’T EXACTLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THE HASHTAG CANCEL NYT TREND PROMPTED JOAN WALSH WILL BE DOING JUST THAT. HERE IS A QUESTION. IS THE LEFT PLAYING INTO DONALD TRUMP’S RE-ELECTION PLAY BOOK AND HOW SHOULD JOURNALISTS PUT TRUMP’S RACISM INTO PERSPECTIVE? IT IS THE GOALS OF OBJECTIVITY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET’S START WITH YOU BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE IT WAS A BAD HEADLINE. MISTAKES WERE MADE. THIS IS A HUMAN BUSINESS. BUT YOUR DESCRIPTION OF HOW HE SEES “THE NEW YORK TIMES” MISSION IN COVERING TRUMP. HE SAID, QUOTE, OUR ROLE IS NOT TO BE THE OPPOSITION TO DONALD TRUMP. OUR ROLE IS TO COVER HIM AGGRESSIVELY. IS THAT THE RIGHT BALANCE FOR “THE NEW YORK TIMES”?>>YEAH. IT’S A GREAT MISSION. BUT “THE NEW YORK TIMES” HAS MARKETED ITSELF NOW AS A SUBSCRIPTION TO “THE NEW YORK TIMES” EQUALS JOINING THE RESISTANCE. THAT’S THE WAY A LOT OF THEIR ADS HAVE BEEN AND THE WAY A LOT OF PEOPLE PERCEIVE THEM. IT IS A STATEMENT OF AFFINITY, A STATEMENT OF POLITICAL IDENTITY. AND, SO, THEY KIND OF CAN’T ESCAPE THAT NOW. NOW THAT THEY AND SO MANY OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS ARE RELYING ON SUBSCRIPTION, THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH CHOOSING SIDES. >>BUT THERE IS CLEARLY ALSO DIVISION BETWEEN THE ROLE OF THE NEW YORK TIMES AS THE PAPER OF RECORD AND MAYBE JUST SIMPLY A MARKETING SCHEME TO INCREASE THEIR SUBSCRIPTIONS. BUT IT IS A DIVISION IN NEWS ROOMS AS WELL. THERE IS A LOT OF DEBATE AND DISAGREEMENT WITHIN “THE NEW YORK TIMES” ITSELF. WHAT DO YOU COME DOWN?>>I THINK THE THING IS JOURNALISTS STARTED TO UNDERSTAND THIS IDEA OF OBJECTIVITY THAT WE WERE ALL RAISED TO FOLLOW IS NOT WORKING. IT IS LEADING TO FALSE EQUIVALENCE WHERE YOU WORK A LIE THAT WAS STATED. AND, SO, EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR A NEW GUIDING LIGHT. I THINK WE SHOULD USE IAN’S AND HAVE A HYPOTHESIS LIKE, IS WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID TRUE AND GIVE THE READERS AN ANALYSIS ABOUT THAT. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO APPROACH THIS PROBLEM. >>HYPOTHESIS LIKE FOLLOW THE FACTS AND THEN COME TO A CONCLUSION BASED ON THAT. >>THERE IS TWO DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT. I THINK A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE IS “THE NEW YORK TIMES,” THE WAY THEY PUT A LIST TOGETHER OF EVERY LIE TRUMP HAD SAID FOR TWO YEARS AND SHOWED THE FACTS TO BACK THAT UP. AFTER THAT THEY FELT COMFORTABLE SAYING THIS MAN LIES ALL THE TIME. THAT HYPOTHESIS IS FULLY PROVEN.>>I WANT TO PLAY ALSO A QUOTE FROM BETO O’ROURKE WHO REALLY TOOK IT TO THE MEDIA IN A WAY THAT HAD A LOT OF FOLKS CHEERING.>>HE’S BEEN CALLING MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS RAPISTS AND CRIMINALS. MEMBERS OF THE PRESS, WHAT THE [ BLEEP ]. HOLD ON A SECOND. IT’S THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS TO. I MEAN, CONNECT THE DOTS ABOUT WHAT HE’S BEEN DOING IN THIS COUNTRY. >>NOAH, WTF, MAN. DID YOU GET THAT RIGHT?>>I’M NOT THE BIGGEST BETO O’ROURKE FAN, BUT I THINK HE’S GOT IT RIGHT IN THIS CASE. WHEN HE HAPPENS TO READ FROM A TELL PROMPTER ONCE AND SAYS SOMETHING THAT’S NOT CRAZY TREAT IT LIKE, THE PRESIDENT ACTED FOR PRESIDENTIAL TODAY. IT’S CRAZY. HE HAS REPEATEDLY DONE RACIST STUFF DAY AFTER DAY, MONTH AFTER MONTH, YEAR AFTER YEAR AND YOU HAVE TO CALL HIM OUT ON IT. >>CAN WE AGREE THAT IT’S ABSURD TO THE EXTENT NEW YORK TIMES HAS DONE A LOT OF TOP AGGRESSIVE REPORTING AND HOLDING DONALD TRUMP TO ACCOUNT? THE IDEA THEY’RE IN THE POCKET OF BIG TRUMP IS SELF-EVIDENTLY NONSENSE.>>I DON’T THINK I DISAGREE, BUT I THINK THAT NOAH’S RIGHT THAT PEOPLE ARE INCREASINGLY IN THIS MEDIA LANDSCAPE SEEING THEIR MEDIA AS MORE OF AN AFFILIATION THAN JUST A NEUTRAL NEWS SOURCE. AND THE WAY THEY COVERED THAT SPEECH WAS REALLY PRETENDING TO BE NEUTRAL. >>I THINK THAT IS WHAT FIRES PEOPLE UP. >>YOU SHOULD NOT BE CANCELED. IN MY OPINION, YOU SHOULDN’T CANCEL ANY SUBSCRIPTION OVER A SINGLE HEADLINE.>>IF DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING TO ATTACK THE INDEPENDENT MEDIA ALL THE TIME, THERE IS SOMETHING DARKLY IRONIC ABOUT THE LEFT RIGHT NOW JOINING ON THAT PILE-ON. SO, AGAIN, AS A PLACE LIKE “THE NEW YORK TIMES,” AS JOURNALISTS, DO YOU THINK WE HAVE A DEEPER OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE WE CANNOT BE ACCUSED OF ACCUSATIONS OF BIAS OR DO WE HAVE AN EVEN DEEPER OBLIGATION SIMPLY TO CALL IT AS WE SEE IT?>>I THINK WE HAVE — LOOK, WE’RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE CALLED BIAS, NO MATTER WHAT. THAT’S ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT WE CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN PROCESSES AND FOR DOING THINGS BY THE BOOK. I THINK IF WE DO THAT. >>THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. STICK AROUND. >>>TRUMP WANTS TO PUT THE FCC NOW IN CHARGE OF POLICING >>>A WEEK IN WHICH AMERICANS AGAIN CONFRONTED THE NEXUS BETWEEN WHITE NATIONALISM AND THE DARK WEB, THE WHITE HOUSE ON FRIDAY HELD A CONFERENCE TO HELP COMBAT ONLINE EXTREMISM, BUT THAT SAME DAY, CNN GOT HOLD OF A DRAFT EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT CALLS FOR THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION TO STEP INTO THE PROCESS OF POLICING POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. LEADING JOURNALIST AND TECH WATCHDOGS WARNED THIS COULD CREATE A NEW GENERATION OF THOUGHT POLICE. HERE TO DISCUSS WITH ME IS AGAIN JULIE. JULIA, LET’S START. THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER IS LIKE A CLEAR SKIES NICHE INITIATIVE AL AGAIN. IT IS PUTTING FEDERAL AGENCIES IN CHARGE OF DETERMINING BALLS AND STRIKES. WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS?>>WELL, THERE IS A LOT OF LEGITIMATE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT THE FACT THAT ALL THESE TECH COMMUNITIES HAVE IMMUNITY FROM THIRD PARTY CONTENT THAT’S POSTED. BUT THE PROPOSED SOLUTION WOULD GIVE THE FCC UNUSUAL POWER TO DETERMINE WHETHER COMPANIES, EACH COMPANY, WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT IMMUNITY, WHICH WOULD BE UNPRECEDENTED IN GIVING SOME COMPANIES ADVANTAGES OVER OTHERS AND SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED FOR POLITICAL CENSORSHIP, ACTUALLY. >>BUT ONE THING THAT ALSO HAPPENED THIS WEEK THAT I THINK IS VERY SIGNIFICANT IS THE DARK WEB FORUM WAS TAKEN OFFLINE. WHAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO POLICE ONLINE EXTREMISTS?>>THE THING ABOUT THAT TAKEDOWN, THE ONLY REASON THAT HAPPENED IS ONE GUY THAT RUNS A COMPANY DECIDED HE WANTED TO TAKE DOWN THEIR PROTECTIONS, AND SO THAT ALSO DOESN’T SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT WAY TO POLICE THINGS IS THAT ONE PARTICULAR COMPANY HAS SO MUCH CONTROL. YOU KNOW, THAT SAME COMPANY IS THE ONE THAT TOOK STORM FRONT DOWN, THE NAZI WEBSITE. SO THAT GUY HAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF POWER ON WHETHER THESE HATE SITES LIVE OR DIE AND THERE IS A LEGITIMATELY A QUESTION OF WHETHER WE WANT TO GIVE HIM CONTROL OVER THESE HATE SITES, TOO. >>BEFORE WE GO, YOU ARE BACK AT THE HELM. YOU HAD BEEN BRIEFLY DISMISSED. THERE WAS A STAFF UPRISING. FOLKS QUIT. NOW YOU ARE BACK. WHAT HAPPENED?>>YEAH. IT WAS A REAL LESSON FOR ME. I LEFT. I FOUND THE MARKUP TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE IMPACT ON SOCIETY. AND I RECRUITED A BUSINESS PARTNER WHO HAD A HUGE TRACK RECORD RUNNING BUSINESSES AND THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO COMPLIMENT MY JOURNALISTIC SKILLS. BUT TURNED OUT SHE HAD A DIFFERENT VISION AND TRIED TO GET RID OF ME. I HAVE HAD TO REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, RUNNING A NEWS ORGANIZATION IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE JOURNALISM. YOU ALSO HAVE TO GET THE BUSINESS RIGHT. >>YEP. >>SO STILL WORKING ON THAT. HAVE A GREAT PARTNER NOW. >>WELL, THAT IS TRUE. AND GETTING THE BUSINESS RIGHT IS THE SUBJECT OF THE NEXT SEGMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. WE WISH YOU WELL. >>THANK YOU. IN THE WAKE OF JEFFREY>>>JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE CAME LESS THAN 24 HOURS AFTER A LANDSLIDE OF DETAILS IN A NEWLY UNSEALED COURT DOCUMENTS. CAUSED THE CASE TO BE REOPENED LONG AFTER MOST FOLKS HAD GIVEN UP. JULIE BROWN JOINS ME NOW. JULIE, WELCOME TO RELIABLE SOURCES. WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU HEARD THE NEWS?>>WELL, I WAS PRETTY STUNNED. YOU KNOW, DISBELIEF. IT’S STILL A LITTLE SHOCKING THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED GIVEN HIS HIGH PROFILE STATUS IN THE BUREAU OF PRISONS. >>WELL, I MEAN, CERTAINLY. AND TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE TIME WHEN CONSPIRACY THEORIES WERE FLYING ONLINE SEEMS TO BE RETWEETING THEM. WHAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO COVER THAT?>>WELL, YOU KNOW, I’M NOT ONE ON CONSPIRACY THEORIES. >>NO, CERTAINLY. >>I THINK THAT’S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE — YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA IS NOT THE PLACE TO GET YOUR NEWS, LET’S PUT IT THAT WAY. I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY’RE GETTING INFORMATION ON TWITTER AND ON FACEBOOK AND OTHER PLATFORMS BUT REALLY YOU SHOULD BE READING A NEWSPAPER AND YOU SHOULD BE REALLY STUDYING THINGS MORE CRITICALLY THAN GETTING YOUR NEWS FROM SOCIAL MEDIA. >>WELL, IT’S A NEW PROBLEM TO HAVE A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES STIRRING THAT POT OF DISINFORMATION. AND WE’RE NOT GOING TO REPEAT HIS ALLEGATION BECAUSE IT IS BASELESS. BUT THE REAL QUESTION I WANT TO ASK YOU IS AS A JOURNALIST, SOMEONE STEEPED IN THIS STORY, WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU STILL WANT ANSWERS ON BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM. >>WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE GOT A — YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT OF COURSE TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED HERE WITH HIS SUICIDE, BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR FOCUS ON THE VICTIMS AND ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WHICH REALLY IS SO MANY AVENUES THAT HAVE YET TO BE INVESTIGATED ON, NOT ONLY ON EPSTEIN HIMSELF AND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE HELPED HIM DO AND OTHER COCONSPIRATORS INVOLVED IN THIS BUT HOW THIS HAPPENED IN 2008 AND WHY IT HAPPENED AND WHETHER THERE IS ANY CORRUPTION THERE TO LOOK AT. AND, YOU KNOW — >>THERE IS A NONPROSECUTION AGREEMENT TO DEAL WITH ALEX COSTA. >>NOT ONLY THAT, BUT QUITE FR FRANKLY, HIS INCARCERATION. JUST LIKE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THERE IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER HE WAS ABLE TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE IN THE BUREAU OF PRISONS TO MAKE THEM LOOK THE OTHER WAY. WE DON’T KNOW. WE CERTAINLY DID THAT IN FLORIDA AND HE WAS CERTAINLY ABLE TO GET SPECIAL TREATMENT IN FLORIDA. AND HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? HOW IS IT THAT SOMEONE IS ABLE TO GET A WORK RELEASE WHEN YOU’RE A SEX OFFENDER AND BE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY NOT BE SUPERVISED EVEN 100% OF THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO HAVE YOUR OWN PRIVATE DRIVER DRIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR OWN PRIVATE VEHICLE TO WORK RELEASE AND BACK EVERY DAY AND TO GO INTO AN OFFICE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU’RE ESSENTIALLY ALLOWED TO HAVE VISITORS. I MEAN, HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN?>>WELL, I THINK THERE IS SMOG ROTTEN IN PALM BEACH. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON “RELIABLE SOURCES.”REPORTING. >>WHEN WE COME BACK, A LOCAL PAPER OUT OF OHISH>>>JOURNALISM IS A MISSION DRIVEN BUSINESS. WHILE THE MISSION MAY BE CLEAR, THE BUSINESS SIDE HAS BEEN MURKY AT BEST. THIS PAST WEEK WE WITNESSED THE SUDDEN DEATH OF WASTE COAST INVESTIGATIVE SITE. WE CAN USE MORE PROFESSIONAL NON-PARTISAN GOVERNING. THOSE ARE THE LATEST IN A LONG STRING OF SHUTDOWNS IN DIGITAL AND PRINT PUBLICATIONS. THIS IS ALL HAPPENING DURING ONE OF THE LONGEST ECONOMIC EXPANSIONS IN MODERN U.S. HISTORY. FOR NEWSPAPERS THE PAST DECADE HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY BRUTAL. NEWSPAPER EMPLOYMENT HAS SHRUNK 47%. THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA SAYS MORE THAN 2,100 NEWSPAPERS HAVE CLOSED OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS. A MAJOR CONSOLIDATION OF THE EMBATTLED PRINTED INDUSTRY, TALKING THE POTENTIAL MERGER BETWEEN NEW MEDIA ENTERPRISES WHICH OWNS 400 LOCAL NEWSPAPERS AND THEY’RE ATTEMPTING TO BUY GWINNETT, PUBLISHER OF USA TO DAY. ANY MERGER WOULD FUR HER MONOPOLIZE THE ALREADY WINNOWING NEWSPAPER MARKET. LATER THIS MONTH, ANOTHER PAPER ADDED TO THAT LOCAL HIT LIST. THE VINDICATOR WILL STOP ITS PRESSES FOR GOOD ON AUGUST 31st. THIS IS PERSONAL FOR ME. THAT WAS MY GRANDPARENTS’S HOMETOWN PAPER. MANAGER MARK BROWN JOINS US NOW. THIS IS A TOUGH DECISION. AFTER YEARS OF LOSS, DO YOU EVER WORRY THAT YOU FAILED THE COMMUNITY, THAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE MORE?>>WE HAVE THAT FEELING ALL THE TIME. WE’RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER WE COULD HAVE MADE BETTER CHOICES. WE’VE PUMPED ABOUT $23 MILLION INTO THE OPERATION TO KEEP IT GOING. WE PROBABLY COULDN’T HAVE DONE A WHOLE LOT MORE EVEN THOUGH WE STILL FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE.>>THAT’S A LOT. WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DO YOU THINK CAN SAVE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS GOING FORWARD.>>I’M VERY CONCERNED. I’M NOT SURE WHAT CAN. THE ADVENT OF FACEBOOK AND THE INTERNET HAS CHANGED THINGS, THE EMPHASIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. PEOPLE THINK IF THEY CAN READ A LINK WITHOUT ACTUALLY GOING AND READING THE STORY, WHERE THEY CAN JUST READ A SNIPPET OF THE HEAD LINE THAT THEY HAVE THE NEWS AND THEY REALLY DON’T. EVEN IF THEY PAY ATTENTION TO SOME WEBSITES, THEY’RE NOT GETTING THE BREADTH IF THEY READ A COMPLETE NEWSPAPER. YOU SEE THINGS AS YOU’RE GOING THROUGH IT THAT YOU WOULDN’T NORMALLY READ BUT YOU DO READ AND THEN YOU BECOME A BETTER INFORMED CITIZEN. YOU MAKE BETTER DECISIONS.>>THAT’S THE HEART OF IT, ISN’T IT? A LACK OF LOCAL PRESS STOPS HOLDING FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE, STOPS PEOPLE FROM BEING AS ENGAGED. ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION BE DEVILLING A LOT OF PAPERS SHUTTING DOWN, THEY SHUT DOWN THE ARCHIVES, EFFECTIVELY ERASING IT. ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP IT ONLINE?>>WE’RE EXPLORING WAYS TO DO THAT. THAT’S OUR INTENTION. I DON’T HAVE A FIRM PLAN BECAUSE WE’RE IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO DEAL WITH ISSUES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW. COME SEPTEMBER 1, IT WILL STILL BE UP. I CAN’T SAY IF IT’S GOING TO CHANGE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION AT SOME POINT.>>MARK, YOU MENTIONED FACEBOOK. THEY ANNOUNCED A PILOT PROGRAM THIS WEEK, POTENTIALLY GIVING PUBLISHERS AS MUCH AS $3 MILLION A YEAR IN REVENUE IN EXCHANGE FOR THE CONTENT. IT MIGHT HELP THINGS FOR SMALL AND MID-SIZED PAPERS. >>I WANT TO THANK YOU TO YOUR COMMITMENT TO YOUNGSTOWN FOR SO LONG. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>>FOR THE REST OF YOU. STICK AROUND, RELIABLE SOURCES CLOSES OUT BY PAYING>>>THIS WEEK WE LOST A GIANT OF AMERICAN LITERATURE. TONI MORRISON WHO DIED AT AGE 88. THE NOBEL PRIZE WINNER LEAVES A POWERFUL LEGACY. WE WANTED TO CLOSE THE SHOW WITH WISE AND TIMELY WORDS ABOUT TRUTH TELLING FROM “THE SOURCE OF SELF-REGARD.” WRITERS, JOURNALISTS, ESSAY, BLOGGERS, POETS, PLAY RIGHTS CAN DISTURB THE SOCIAL OPPRESSION THAT FUNCTIONS LIKE A COMA ON THE POPULATION. TRUTH IS TROUBLE. UNPERSECUTED, UNJAILED, UNHARASSED WRITERS ARE TROUBLE FOR THE IGNORANT BULLY, THE SLY RACIST AND THE PREDATORS FEEDING OFF THE WORLD’S RESOURCES. THE ALARM THAT THE QUIET WRITER RAISES IS INSTRUCTIVE BECAUSE IF UNPOLICED IS THREATENING. THEREFORE, THE HISTORICAL SUPPRESSION OF WRITERS IS THE EARLIEST HARBINGER OF THE STEADY PEELING AWAY OF ADDITIONAL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES THAT WILL FOLLOW. THAT’S ALL FOR THIS TELEVISED EDITION OF RELIABLE SOURCES. REMEMBER, WE’RE A MULTIPLATFORM OPERATION. OUR MEDIA COVERAGE CONTINUES ALL THE TIME ONLINE. CHECK OUT RELIABLESOURCES.COM. DON’T FORGET ABOUT CNN’S NEW ORIGINAL SERIES “THE MOVIES WASHINGTON WHICH CONTINUES AT 9:00 P.M. WITH THE STORIES BEHIND OUR FAVORITE MOVIES FROM THE 1960s. SEE YOU RIGHT HERE NEXT WEEK.>>>NATION IN CRISIS. AFTER TWO MASS SHOOTINGS, DEMOCRATS BLAME PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR A RISING TIDE OF HATE.>>HE DIDN’T PULL THE TRIGGER. BUT HE CERTAINLY BEEN TWEETING OUT THE AMMUNITION.>>THE PRESIDENT SAID HE WANTS TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE. >>I THINK WE COULD GET SOMETHING REALLY GOOD DONE. >>BUT WILL THIS TIME BE ANY DIFFERENT? I’LL SPEAK WITH DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE BETO O’ROURKE NEXT. >>>PLUS MASSIVE RAIDS. CHILDREN SEPARATED FROM PARENTS AS HUNDREDS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS ARE SWEPT UP BY I.C.E. AND THE PRESIDENT CALLS THOSE RAIDS A GOOD DETERRENT.>>THEY MAY GET IN BUT IT DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE THEY’RE GOING OUT. >>WHY WERE FAMILIES TARGETED? I’LL SPEAK TO MARK MORGON IN MOMENTS. >>>AND ALL IN IOWA. 2020 DEMOCRATS TAKE THE SOAP BOX AT THE IOWA STATE FAIR.>>THE STORY OF THIS STATE IS THE STORY OF AMERICA. >>WHOSE MESSAGE IS RESONATING WITH CAUCUS-GOERS. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE CORY BOOKER JOINS ME NEXT.>>>HELLO, I’M JAKE TAPPER IN WASHINGTON WITH THE STATE OF OUR UNION IS APPALLED. WE BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH A RE-TWEET FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. NOT A MESSAGE ABOUT HEALING OR UNITING THE COUNTRY, ONE WEEK AFTER TWO HORRIFYING MASSACRES, NOT ABOUT THE VICTIMS OF THE TRAGEDIES, INSTEAD PRESIDENT TRUMP USING HIS MASSIVE TWITTER PLATFORM, 63 MILLION FOLLOWERS TO SPREAD A DERANGED CONSPIRACY THEORY. TIEING THE DEATH OF PEDOPHILE JEFFREY EPSTEIN IN PRISON TO THE PRESIDENT’S FORMER POLITICAL RIVALS, THE CLINTONS. I’M NOT GOING TO SHOW YOU THE TWEET BUT THE SPOKESPERSON FOR FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON RESPONDED TO THE PRESIDENT RE-TWEETING IT SAYING, QUOTE, RIDICULOUS AND NOT TRUE AND DONALD TRUMP KNOWS IT. HAS HE TRIGGERED THE 25th AMENDMENT YET? PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD USE HIS MEGAPHONE FOR ANYTHING. BUT THE PRESIDENT OFTEN USES IT TO AMPLIFY THAT WHICH IS THE WORST OF US. PERSONAL ATTACKS, BIGOTRY, AND INSANE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. OFFICIALS SAY EPSTEIN DIED BY APPARENT SUICIDE WHILE IN THE CUSTODY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR WILL OPEN AN INVESTIGATION INTO HOW IT HAPPENED AND WAS APPALLED AND SAYING IT RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS THAT MUST BE ANSWERED, UNQUOTE. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS CHOSEN TO USE HIS AMPLIFIED VOICE TO SPREAD CONSPIRACIES. HE LIED ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA’S BIRTHPLACE. HE SUGGESTED TED CRUZ’S FATHER MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE JFK ASSASSINATION AND LIED THAT HE SAW AMERICAN MUSLIMS ON TV CELEBRATING 9/11 WHEN THERE IS NO SUCH TAPE. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ALSO GIVEN VOICE TO THE LIE THAT THE MIGRANT AND REFUGEE CRISIS AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE U.S. IS A PLOT BY

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