APNIC 40 – NIR SIG

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>>Toshio Tachibana: Let’s get started.
Welcome to the NIR SIG. I’m Chair at this
time Toshio Tachibana from Japan.
We have two Co-chairs, Jessica and Ajai are here at
this time. Because all time expired
end of August, so I introduce today’s agenda.
At first … we invite SIG Chair and
Co-chair elections .
>>Adam Gosling: As Toshio mentioned, he’s Chair
and two Co-chairs are in the room
with us. Their term end very
shortly, so we’re running elections as the first item
on the agenda. We kind of got a little
bid muddled up. Generally the SIG guidelines for the
operation of SIG suggests that you should have
elections alternating, so that you
don’t get into a situation like we are now, where all
three Chairs are being elected, Chair positions are up
for election. Normally, that would
allow a community member to run the election. However,
since there have been no sitting Chairs at this point of the
election, APNIC will run it. I hope that makes sense.
As you can see on the screen, we have Chair, go
Co-chairs currently. Toshio, Jessica and Ajai. Those
positions come to an end at this meeting.
It’s the Secretariat’s responsibility to run these
elections and so we issued a call for nominations, which
closed on 4 September. I don’t need to go through those
details, but you can check the announcements for those,
if you wish .
We had four nominees. In particular, there’s two
things to note here. We had a nominee for the Chair
position from someone who wasn’t able to attend the
meeting. The SIG guidelines stipulate that you must be
in the room to take part in the election.
Unfortunately, the gentleman who nominated for Chair
won’t participate in this election. So basically
technically that means Toshio stands unopposed.
The other thing to note is that Jessica, who has
been a long time Co-chair at the SIG here has — sorry,
I was going to say promoted, but I’m not sure that
that’s the right word. Jessica has become a member of
the Executive Council and so has decided not to run for
the NIR SIG Co-chair. But we did get another
candidate and I actually have met Zen. Is Zen in the
room? Nice to meet you. As the new candidate, I
think we all know the other two candidates, Ajai has
agreed to continue and even knows Toshio as well. Would
you be able to make a short statement, a brief
introduction, perhaps ?
>>Zhen Yu: Good afternoon, everyone. I’m general you from
CNNIC. I’m operation manager responsible for IP
service, member development and Conference and trainee
program. During the last four years, I have been
working on improving member service level by optimizing
members the process bidding and adding new service and
organizing IPv6 training to CNNIC members.
Through my effort s, IP Conference has been more
active as a well-known platform for information
exchange and experience sharing and
project cooperation among ISPs and local operators ISPs and
relevant cooperation .
Sorry, I’m a little nervous.
So I also work on the IPv6 upgrade of domain name
CNNIC project to help ISPs with upgrading. Before
I joined CNNIC, I have worked for one vendor and IPv6
solution provider in China for more than 10 years,
involved in many IPv6 related events and projects.
I would like to take advantage of my experience in
IP operation as well as event and projects and serve NIR
community as Co-chair to enhance the experience,
exchange and cooperation among NIRs.
So I hope I had the chance. Thank you for your
support APPLAUSE
>>Adam Gosling: Thank you very much, Zen.
I’m a little unsure how to proceed here. We have
got effectively one nominee for Chair and two Co-chairs.
So rather than actually have a kind of show of hands and
count, I would like to possibly accept all three
nominees as elected, but there’s one thing I have to do
first, is to check whether the Chair once elected, would
have two Co-chairs. I hope everyone is following me.
I’m just trying to follow procedure here.
Can I rather than elect a Chair, can we accept
Toshio’s nomination for Chair with a round of applause?
APPLAUSE Would you like to
appoint two Co-chairs tash Toshio
Tachibana tach yes, I accept the two Co-chairs. Thank
you very much. APPLAUSE
>>Adam Gosling: I would like to announce that we have to new
Co-chairs. If you do join us up here.
APPLAUSE I mentioned before that a very good friend is not
really leaving us, but Jessica is kind of unable to
continue as an NIR Co-chair. I would like to see if you
have anything to say before you move on, Jessica? Would
you like to say a farewell? APPLAUSE>>Jessica Shen: Thank you very
much for all of your support in the past four years.
Although I will not be the Co-chair of the SIG from now
on, but I will still in the APNIC community and will
meet you at APNIC Conferences. So actually there is not
much to say. I think NIR SIG is very good platform. We
have been and can further take use of this platform to
well express the development status and
demands from the local communities, enhance
cooperation and do benefit both for
APNIC community and the members. Thank you.
APPLAUSE>>Adam Gosling: I know you have
just applaused, but I would like us all to thank Jessica
for her contribution to the community through the NIR
SIG and through her ongoing contribution through the EC.
APPLAUSE I’ll hand over to your
new Chair.
>>Toshio Tachibana: We are next agenda is update from each
NIR. Please we have some presentation. After that,
APNIC presentation. So the brief presentation
10 minutes maximum. Thank you for your cooperation.
Let’s start. First is CNNIC update, also presented
by Zhen Yu.>>Zhen Yu: Thank you. First it’s my
pleasure to present the CNNIC update. I will focus
on the following areas: membership, IP address and
AS number location and new IP Conference with technical
training. First, the Internet
development in China. CNNIC released … report on
Internet development in China on July 2015. The report
shows that China’s Internet users have reached 608 million by 2015, with
Internet penetration rate up 48.8 per
cent. The growth is 0.9 per cent compared to end
of 2014. But end of June 2015,
the mobile Internet users in China have reached 594
million, with increase of 37 million compared to that
of end of 2014. Accounting for 88.9 per cent of the
total Internet users. The mobile phone have become the
main terminal to access Internet.
Let’s have a look at the membership growth of CNNIC.
At end of 2015, we have 842 members. As you can
see, in the chart , membership growth after 2014,
especially after theism plementing of
the distribution of the current IPv4 address policy
in the middle of last year. Let me go a little bit
into detail. Our membership changing distribution of
membership. Our members can be divided into three
categories. The first ISP and IDC,
the second Internet providers the third the
cooperation and institutions. The third
including government departments, schools and
factories and so on. We roughly define three
periods in the membership growth process. Look at the
changing in the respective periods. You can see that ISP/IDC and ICP are always
mainly growth of requiring and using IP address. At the
same time, the corporations and institutions have been
expanding their share. Especially in the last four
years. That’s the third period, we see a increase of
corporation and institutions who come to request their
own IP address for development of their Internet
business. Let’s have a look at the
IPv4 allocations at the end of August, CNNIC has
allocated more than 317,000 /24 IPv4 address to its members .
IPv6 allocation. CNNIC has allocated more than
6,700 /32 IPv6 blocks and here I would like to share
large IPv6 allocation case with you. By the end of
2014, China highway management had been more than
140,000 kilometres. Due to the lack of public IPv4
address, the current highway intelligent information
system used private IPv4 address, which seriously
restrict the development of information construction of
the highway. So in order to adapt to the rapid
development and the requirements of the information
construction of China highway, ministry of transport
needs IPv6 transformation of the national highway
information system. The highway information system is
composed of monitoring … the emergency broadcast
system. Each system multiplex the highway optical
fibre network ^, but independent
of each other in business logic and IP address
planning. Finally, we allocated /24 IPv6 address to
research institute of highway
ministry of transport to support this project.
Let’s have a look at the growth of members with IPv4
address with those with IPv6, as shown in the graph, we
experience very fast membership growth with IPv4
address since 2010, when IPv4
depletion occurred in APNIC region, quite a number of
new ones are coming for the last IPv4 address, in terms
of IPv6, there is also fast growth and we have been
making a lot of efforts to encourage our members to
request and test IPv6. Next, the AS allocation.
CNNIC has allocated more than 800 AS numbers. We
provide 2-byte and 4-byte AS numbers to our members.
Here we would like to learn and exchange 4-byte AS
distribution and deployment with you.
CNNIC annual IP Conference held up to date IP
allocation trend as well as the development of IP
related new technology to CNNIC members and wider
community. This year the Conference was held on
19 August in Dalian, more than 200 representatives which
came from APNIC, telecom operators, research
institutions, APNIC members and CNNIC members attended
the meeting. This year’s presentation included IP
address management, IPv6 adoption, Internet cloud
service and network security. Guangliang presented
update on global IP address allocation including the
IPv4 transfers among the RIRs.
APNIC Executive Council member Ma Yan also
participated presenting an overview of Internet
governance and The IANA Stewardship Transition .
Following the annual Conference.. APNIC’s
Guangliang conducted training on IPv6, DNS and
security frp 20 to 21 August to
around 50 attendees who are very interested with IPv6. The
training was very successful. Thanks to Champika and
Guangliang’s hard work .
To evaluate the training effort effect and
collecting training demand, CNNIC conducted a survey
after the training. I would like to share the survey
result with you. The survey covers
industry of the attendees, training satisfaction..
Advise to improve the cost, future interest and so on.
From starting, most of the attendees came from IDC
and ISP. It’s a good sign that they keep eyes on IPv6.
Almost all the attendees were satisfied with trainer and
the cost. The attendees also give some advice to the
training, such as training in Chinese, provide Chinese
training materials, provide hands-on practice, increase
the case study and reduce the physical content and so
on. Regarding the
scheduling, most of the attendees
thought two or three days training and one or two times
a year is suitable for them. With that, we set score
of 1 to 5 to see how much the organization is
interested in this topic. Score 5
means the most interest. The chart in the lower right
shows the average score, network security, routing, IPv6
and DNS is the most favourite topic. From the
survey, 65 persons of the respond
are willing to participate in the favourite training. 68
persons or respondents think that the training cost would
be more popular if the examination based
certification is introduced. We hope to continue our
training cooperation with APNIC in the future. That’s
all I want to share with you today.
Thank you very much. APPLAUSE>>Ajay Kumar (NIXI): Thank you
very much for the presentation ^. I would
like to invite our next speaker from KRNIC for their NIR
update. Mr Billy .
>>Billy MH Cheon: Good afternoon, everyone. My
flame is Billy Cheon of KISA, KRNIC,
nice to meet you ^. I present KRNIC update for
you ^. Kang sannion. First IP and AS number
management .
KRNIC hold approximately 112 million IPv4 address
and 5200 of IPv6 address. We Al calletted a total
of 53,000 IPv4 address from APNIC in this year. Next thing is AS number. AS
number management. In this year, KRNIC hold about
1,019 AS number for each part, 905 of 2-byte AS N and
114 of 4-byte ASN. But we assigned only 802 of
2-byte ASN and 4-byte ASN is not assigned yet. Next is KRNIC members status.
KRNIC members composed of ISPs,
independent IP users and as number
users .
ISP in detail, 19 by ISPs and 154
independent IP users and ^ that’s 689 AS
number region. Recently, some Korean ISPs have merged, so
the number of ISPs are declined .
Next thing is KRNIC’s IP and AS number policies.
For KRNIC, for allocation of IP, the user have
facilities accessible to the Internet and they should be
a member of KRNIC from ISP or independent IP user or
they have AS number. Next, AS number assignment, they should be
multihomed and they have a unique routing policy. Last,
IP and AS number transfer only allowed between KRNIC
members, in Korea. Third, KRNIC activities. KRNIC provide KRNIC Whois
service now, but some data are incorrect, so we planning
to check and update whole Whois database with APNIC DB
matching. Next year, we are going
to cooperate with ISPs for updating reassignments
information of IPs.
Next thing is RPKI. We been developing RPKI model
in this year and also we will test next year RPKI system
and launch trial of RPKI service in 2017. Tentative
schedule. This is my presentation.
Someone has questions ?
Ajai Kumar. Thank you, we will be taking questions
and answer after the session, after each NIR
presentation, then we will take the question and answer
question. Next I would like to
invite our next speaker from India, my home country, the
new NIR Dr Govind. APPLAUSE
>>Dr Govind: Good afternoon, everyone, ladies
and gentlemen. First of all, I would like
to thank Chair Toshio tach and Co-chairs Mr Ajai skew
March and Mr Cerne you from China and outgoing Co-chair
Jessica Shen, who has contributed a lot towards
the NIR system in this NIR forum.
To begin with, I will give a brief of our IRINN
update, activities, growth, affiliate status, IPv4
delegation, IPv6 delegation and events we conducted in
IPv6 areas. We are primarily
activities are to manage and distribution of IPv4, IPv6
and AS numbers and secondary activities are the
coordination with global policymakers, organizing
programs towards Internet resource knowledge pro
proliferation in the country, organizing technical
training, organize local open policy meetings to with our
affiliates and other ISP members to carry forward
Indian stakeholders views to the regional and global open
policy forums. This is a brief
depiction of our growth from November 2015 to August
2015. Year by year growth you can see is coming from
the 779 last year to 1198, a growth of 400 in the
system. This is the resource
wise affiliate status. We have 1007 affiliates are taken
IPv4 and 191 affiliates have taken IPv4 as well as IPv6.
Three affiliates have taken IPv6. The growth we are
encouraging our affiliates in the country and other
entities to make more and more IPv6 addresses, particularly
the banks and universities are approaching more for
IPv6 and other type of entities are taking ISPs and the
other entities taking only the IPv4 addresses.
This is the bar chart kind of thing that delegated
our 6367 /24 IPv4 blocks since inception. We have
allocated up to 31 August, the total of these many /24,
which is amounts to 256 blocks for each kind of thing.
This is again the IPv6 delegation distribution year
by year, November 2013 to August 2016. IPv6 blocks
/32 and /48 has been allocated.
These are some of the events which we hosted in the
workshop of DNS/DNSSEC with APNIC. In Mumbai, in April,
this year, where we talked about more on the DNS
security systems, with ISPs and the telcos and the other
members of the community. Co-hosted SANOG 26 in Mumbai
with ISP a, participated in IPv6 workshops conducted
bier net, we have participated also 50 IPv6
workshops in different states hosted by
DOT, which has come out with a plan for the IPv6 and IPv6
migration policy in the country.
We have planning our annual open meeting
in November, we had last meeting in last year, so this
year we would be hosting it in November with the
affiliates to know that we use and interact with them to
know how the things are moving.
Thank you. This is our in the brief giving the
snapshot of what our activities and things are.
Thank you.
APPLAUSE>>Ajai Kumar: Thank you very much for detailed
discussion. Now I would like to invite
next speaker from TWNIC for their update .>>Ching-Heng Ku: Good afternoon, everyone. I’m
Ching-Heng Ku from TWNIC. Today
presentation is about TWNIC update
update. Outline including the statistics of TWNIC IP
members, second one is TWNIC activities and training
programs in 2015. Third one is status of IPv6 upgrade
of governmental network services in Taiwan. Finally is
conclusions and future works .
This slide shows the statistics of TWNIC IP members.
There are 62 TWNIC LIRs. Eight service type
including co-location and fibre to the
home, ADSL, cable modem, wireless LAN, which maximum,
3G/3.5G and 4G. Using the categories, we
can see how many TWNIC members have different kinds
of services. Most service
is co-location/IDC. There are 31 services FTTx. ^.
And 14 members have cable modem services. Besides there
are five members have the 4G services in Taiwan.
This slide shows the IPv4 address allocation. TWNIC
has allocated 131,589 /24s IPv4
addresses. The number of small allocations are
growth after the final /8 stage. This slide shows the
IPv6 address allocations. TWNIC has allocated 2,344 /32s IPv6 addresses.
After members apply IPv6 addresses.
Currently, more than 50 per cent TWNIC IP members have
obtained IPv6 addresses. This slide shows since
2001, TWNIC released Taiwan Internet connectivity
bandwidth every quarter. This survey was conducted by 84
ISPs in TWNIC’s band width registration system.
Currently, the total bandwidth of
Internet connection from Taiwan reaches 1,436 Gbps. We also provide every ISP’s band
wide of international connection and
domestic ISP connection. You can query the ISP
bandwidth by flash and show all of
this ISP’s connective bandwidth .
The URL is mat .TWNIC.net.tw.
In activity of TWNIC, the 24th TWNIC IP Open Policy
Meeting is held on June 10 and 11. The keynote speech
NTT communication’s efforts into IPv6, we invite CEO of
NTT Taiwan to have this speech.
The rest of the session topics in this meeting
include IPv6 Internet of Things and 4G IPv6
applications, big data in telecommunication, Taiwan NOG
^. So there are more than 15 speakers and 180 attendees
to attend this meeting. The detail agenda can
visit OPM.TWNIC.net.tw /24th,
as shown in the slide. We have TWNIC IPv6
training program this year. The period of time of training
is between May and October. In this year’s training
program, we have some difference. The original
program, introduction program and the hands-on program.
We create MOOCs online program this year. We use
the online program to introduce IPv6 technology
and IPv6 management and security and IOT
infrastructure and applications. We have hold 33 courses
this year and there are more than 5,000 attendees in this
program. This show the IPv6 up a
grade of external network services. There are 4,665
network services of governmental agencies need
to be totally upgraded to IPv6 in the end of 2015. Till August 2015, there are
4,567, it’s 97.9 per cent services had been
completed. We also monitor IPv6 reachable ratio of these
services. Currently, 94.9 per
cent services are reachable by IPv6.
Slide can show the trend of IPv6 upgrade.
Conclusions and future works. All governments
external network services will be upgraded to IPv6 in
this year. We hope to promote IPv6 upgrade of ISPs
access services in the future. In IPv6 promotion, we
will continuously take IPv6 training courses, IPv6
virtual lab and IPv6 activities this year.
We also will hold the 2015 global IPv6 Summit in
Taiwan on December 8 to 11. We welcome all of you to
share your experience in this IPv6 Summit in Taiwan.
It’s all my presentation. Thank you very
much. APPLAUSE>>Ajai Kumar: Thank you very much for whatever
the work you have done in your NIR
sharing with our community. Our next speaker is from JPNIC.
Mr Taiji.>>Taiji Kimura: Hello, everyone. I’m Taiji from
JPNIC. Izumi will talk about
policies part in this presentation
presentation. I will talk about three
things, but one of them will from Izumi.
Resource statistics . We have no big changes on the
new allocation or the IPv4 and IPv6 . Four.
AS numbers are assigned per month. So no big
changes in Japan. We have about 700 assignments of AS
number in Japan. For transfer, we have
182 transfers in Japan from
Japan to outside of Japan. Especially for ARIN region,
we have first transfer from JN region. The details
about the transfer, he will ask about that,.
Our members in Japan have about 412. We have the
historical IP address holder this is Japan. They are
about 2,000. So the old members will be 2,500, I think.
Policy area. Izumi.
>>Izumi Okutani: Hi, this is Izumi okay and let
me just cover up the policy related
area .
On the JPNIC policy meeting, we held a meeting
in June this year and it was chaired by Toshio over
here. We actually it was businessically information
session. We didn’t really having a policy proposal.
One thing to highlight is that we always give update
on the APNIC meetings or what’s discussed and another
thing that we’re doing is improving on the support for
our community on the v4 transfer, so something similar
to APNIC’s transfer listing service.
So that’s basically it. We did cover The IANA
Stewardship Transition. But we actually do have
other areas anything to the number resources that’s
covering the policy. So we also keep track of what’s going
on in the names area, so attending the ICANN forum.
As well as we have started to focus on the wider
Internet Governance area. So we do have community for each
of these areas within Japan, so for the number resources,
we have JPNIC open policy 3450E9ing, for ICANN we
actually update our community on what’s happening in the
names area. We have also launched the Internet
Governance Conference Japan, which
I will cover a ill will bit more in details later.
We actually observe that a lot of the things that
happening globally is really not being shared within
Japan, so the volume of discussions and information
that’s being shared globally and within Japan is so
different. So that’s why we actually felt that we have
launched this Conference within Japan in June 2014 to
provide a platform for discussions or for our
community. So at the beginning we
are focusing a lot on information or update to
make sure our community is keeping track of major
discussions points on this arena.
So topics covered would be discussions like really
big Conferences such as IGF, ITU plen pot, there was
a Conference in but Zen, so this was also covered global
cybersecurity Conference in the Hague. These are the
ciewnt of major event that is we make sure beupdate our
community, because these are very important key events
in this arena and I’m just going to list a few examples
of specific topics that we have covered, which is
neutrality, copyright legislation within Japan,
security, it’s a very big, broad area, but we actually
set up a team to develop document on common principles
and policies and things like this and of course IANA
stewardship transition continues to be a big topic for
us. So we had an opportunity
forter so swine heart from ICANN to come to our meeting
and give an update. Then on The IANA
Stewardship Transition, we felt that this is something good
for JPNIC to be able to introduce, because this is
related to the number resources, we have expertise
and this is actually really relevant to the wider
Internet community, because it really touches on the
critical Internet resources for the Internet.
But at the same time, as you all know, that the
comment period for this combined proposal is open until
tomorrow, I think 8 — tomorrow our time, so 8
September UTC23.59. But in our
community is a bit shy to make a submission individually,
directly to the ig G and also the proposal is 190
something pages long. It is very
technical. So we try to pick on something very common
that broadly can be agreed by the wider community
members. That is a common spired that the Internet has
developed based on the spirit of open, inclusive and
bottom-up process and mechanism and then we support
the transition from this aspect.
We are actually calling for individuals to sign this
common statement that we are submitting as a Japanese
community. It’s easier for them to express their
opinion. Then the challenges that
we are facing is that so we do try to cover
comprehensively major subjects, but then
how far in depth do we go in each of the subject, for
example, security and is really deep subject. Another
thing is trying to encourage our community to be able to
express their opinion outside Japan. This is
something that we are still working on
and The IANA Stewardship Transition is more like a
test case, within our community.
So thanks and I’ll hand over to Taiji.
>>Taiji Kimura: Thank you, Izumi. The last part is
technical part. We have two things for report. One is
DNSSEC for reverse zone. We are working on developing
reverse DNSSEC and we have two types of IP address, so
we need to build up on this. We’ll launch the service
November this year. We are developing a new user
interfaces for registering DS record which is used by.
And new service will serve for both IP address
types, one is APNIC shared pool, the other is JPNIC
delegated pool. For APNIC shared pool,
we need to pass the AS record for APNIC’s zone. So our
system will pass the basically pass the record before
passing we need to check out. For JPNIC delegated
pool, we’ll do a signature. This signature on zone
managed by JPNIC and the member can handle their own zone
and a DNSSEC. Second one is RPKI. We
are serving three types of RPKI service. One is test
bed for newcomers and a new code released from RPKI.net
code open source software. ^. And pilot service is
launched in March this year in Fukuoka, previous APNIC
meeting. Third one is easy use of RPKI for easy use of
RPKI, we provide public server with Multi-Feed is largest
one of the largest IXP. We are preparing the how
to document as well. Version the getting up,
along with support RPKI support in BGP routers.
There are Ms Originated routes in Japan ^, which is
observed by using JP RIR ^, so we often discuss on how
to the Ms Origin, some.
For using RPKI, then we can manage the different way
from use of IRR, previous one.
That’s all from me. Thank you.
APPLAUSE>>Ajai Kumar: Thank you, Mr
Taiji, for technical update regarding the RPKI, reverse
DNS and thank you Izumi for sharing the detail of IG
work which you are doing. Other next speaker is
from IDNIC .>>Benyamin Naibaho: Hi, my name
is Benjamin Naibaho, I’m from IDNIC, Indonesia
information centre. Currently IDNIC is handled by APJII ^. We will present about IP
version 6 update until now, what is progress, what we
are doing until now, what the handicap and what the next
update that we will have to do.
Currently, we handle three part of classification of
customer, one is ISP is the operator, ISP and NA pvment
and one is economic from education and also from the
last one is for corporate, association and government.
Most of the users for IPv6 is still ISP.
About 140. Second one is government, last one is
education. This is the distribution
for the years, how many
block IPv6 already used by our users. In 2011, we give
free services or free use of blocks for all members, so
that’s why it’s about 1 million. For 2012, it’s up also
until 2 million. The last one in 2015 is about 786,000.
So currently there are about 7 million blocks capacity
that already used by our users.
This is the table of our position in 2013, Indonesia
still in No. 19 for IP version 6 allocation.
What we are doing to implement our services until
now. We do simple form to give fast response for any
users who need their IP allocation for IPv6. We do also
free for request for any party that need allocation and
we also support any critical infrastructure who need
IPv6. Our activities for the
regular Hostmaster is doing like create IPv6 routes
object and also create IPv6 reverse DNS. We work
together with ccTLD Pandey ^, for
IPv6 implementation and also we do IP version 6IX peering, Internet exchange
Indonesia peering in last one is we do some advertise for
IPv6 support to our upstream, to do upstream by
each company. For implementation of IPv6, we also support, we also
help some parties who need, like implement to content,
to new portal like detick.com until now and we also
support large operators like mobile operatorring,
telecom sell, also the. End sat, XL and
everything. Many companies and institutions like education
will need some help from us. We also implement for
local network. We also in 2010, make
like meeting in Bali for doing our IPv6 community meeting.
At the time it is open by our minister and at the time
we do like IPv6 Task Force.
Also support by government and our stakeholders .
We do also like IPv6 mailing list. This is the
facility for us to get some information or to get some
comment from the users. Like any other country, this is
the problem that we get until now. There are many
members that device is not compatible with IPv6. That’s
why we do like dual-stack for this one. Not many
content providers wants to go to implement IPv6. It is
said that. Big IPv4 still IPv4
community very difficult from if they do like IPv6. Even we
have to socialization, we do some presentation and
education for IPv6, but we still have some handicap for this
one. This is like what I said
before, we do like IPv6 Summit in 2010 in Bali.
It’s all open by our minister. We try to get some support
from any other stakeholders. We do also like some education and some
training in any other cities outside
Jakarta, like in Bali, in Jakarta,
in sum ran and in may Dan in … that’s all our updates
until now. If you have any questions, we’ll do after
this meeting. Thank you APPLAUSE>>Ajai Kumar: Thank you very
much for presenting the IPv6 update from your NIR. Our
last speaker for NIR update is from VNNIC. May I invite
VNNIC speaker . On on good
afternoon, everyone. Welcome to my presentation ^
today. I’m going to talk to you about VNNIC update.
About my presentation, there are five main content
regarding to the 15th anniversary and about VNNIC …
NIR of Vietnam and we would like to talk to you about
IPv6 activity and topic is cooperation activity and
upcoming activities regarding to VNNIC.
The first, as you know in 2015, we have 15 years.
We found in 2000 and we are very happy with. Also we
have 15 years and also we receive the order from labour
order second class from Vietnam government. I would
like to VNNIC we not only NIR of APNIC community, we
also take care of the contract TLD organize national
registry of Vietnam, we also … of course we also just
responsible for most IPv6 in Vietnam and this is my
point is the my presentation regarding to the new
Director General. As you know, from April 2015, Mr Tran
Minh Tan, who have been become Director General of
VNNIC VNNIC.
Back to VNNIC NIR of Vietnam, I would like to update
you about the policy and in last month, (next month,
circular No. 24.. Management and eyes
of Internet resources will be our first
and regarding to the policy, I would like to know about
… IPv4 transfer. As you know, VNNIC and also Vietnam
allowed transfer from our side to Vietnam and policy
will be soon next month .
As you can see, the chart regarding to the IPv4
address in Vietnam. As you know from 2011, with the
policy in IPv4 resource … so the number of IPv4
address in Vietnam is not. This is a lot, a
little bit faster and. However, when we this year we also
accept the policy regarding to the recovered pool from IANA
to APNIC, so wes a accept our member to take IPv4 from
the pool. So you can see the chart. The red colour is shift
from 103 ^. Recovered pool.
About our members from VNNIC, we grow very fast. Up
to now, we have more than 200 members. It’s also the
regarding to the VNNIC members, we have the opening
Member Meeting. Usually we have in July every year.
This year we have in Ho Chi Minh and Da Nang City
with … the main topic is
distribution of on IPv6
application for mobile broadband. If you know, if you
would like to now more detail about the events, you can
go to the website.
This is one main point of the activities related to
IPv4 deployment. In Vietnam. Vietnam IPv6 Task
Force work with seven enterprise
for mobile, ISP and content field.
After the working with the other seven enterprise
and we are very happy to know the mobile network …
mobile support IPv6 and have planned already for
transition from 3G to 4G and about content, they also
would have a plan for transfer IPv4 to IPv6. Last is
that we transition from IPv4 to IPv6 and about ISP all
ISP support IPv6, but also we do not deploy IPv6 on end
users, so you can see is on the Internet see Vietnam on
the Internet it use the IPv6, but it’s FPT telecom have
been use deployment with 90,000 customers using
IPv6 and we hope that in the end of
this year, we have the number increase to more than
200,000 people using IPv6 .
Main point, we would like to deployment IPv6 in
Vietnam, we take care and we think training is very
important, so we also have training not only for many,
but also we have training course for technical team and
I organize training also workshop.
About cooperation. We are very happy to have the
MOU with KISA frm career. I hope that after KISA and
VNNIC has signed MOU we improve our relationship in the
Internet area. Our upcoming activity is
the IP deployment activities main point we are
focused on this year, so we
have plan to launch IPv6 in the country. As you know,
usually in IPv6 activity of Vietnam IPv6 Task Force that
organize upcoming activities reports on Internet
resource in 2015.
We will have Vietnam IPv6 Day in next year. Of
course we will have the open memberring in July 2016 and
organize IPv6 activities with all those activities we
focused in the future and thank you for your time.
APPLAUSE>>Ajai Kumar: I would like to
request Mr Sanjaya from APNIC.>>Sanjaya: Thank you, Chairs. I won’t be
long. I’m just giving you an update on the
upcoming APNIC 2016 survey. We have three slides . As you know APNIC runs survey
every two years, sent to all members and stakeholders in
the community in the region and we are going to do
another one the next one is going to happen in 2016.
I just want to remind you what it is about and then
tentative schedule and also what do we expect to
coordinate with the NIRs particularly on how to make
there are a success .
Similar to the previous survey, it’s going to be an
online survey, so we have a wide reach throughout the
region and even we would invite people from outside of
the region for provide feedback about performance,
about about issues that they are
facing on deploying Internet networks, issues they are
seeing in the IPv4 address space, IPv6, AS number,
anything that relates to Internet infrastructure.
Before the online survey, as usual, we are going
to go to the cities to some
cities I think the last time we went to 60 different cities
in different subregions to meet this focus group which
will then based on natural discussion, helps us in
designing and creating the questionnaire, the online
questionnaire. Timeline will look like
this. Next month in October, we would like to
be contact with all the NIRs, getting their input
about what issues should be discussed, what issues can
be asked and themes. Then in November, the
APNIC EC will receive all the feedback from the community
including the NIRs and then set for next year’s survey,
what themes and issues should be covered. We
cannot cover too many issues, because the survey will
become too long. We don’t want that. Some we really want
to focus on issues that is really topical.
Then we announce the survey at APRICOT 2016 in
Auckland in March. In March/April, we’ll do the focus
group. April we will design the online survey based on
the focus group discussions and then May 2016, we run
the online survey. June to August, we get people to
analyze the survey. Then we should be able to report at
the APNIC 42 in Dhaka. What do we need from
NIRs? Obviously, there is a lot that we can do with
the NIRs here. How we can involve your members to
participate in the survey and help us with the issues and
themes that we need to ask in the survey.
Opportunities to translate the survey to
the language, to different languages.
Your input itself to the survey themes and issues.
Coordination with NIR to promote the survey, when it
goes out in May. Then help us to report back to your
community after we get the result.
So basically, that is the kind of cooperation we
would love to have from you. Thank you .
We both think that the work is very interesting and
is very meaningful. As for the translation work,
I think if possible, CNNIC would like to volunteer for
translate the document into Chinese.
>>Sanjaya: Thank you very much. APPLAUSE
Do I get a volunteer from Korea to translate and
Vietnam as well? Anyway, we’ll talk some
more. It’s still a few months to go, but I really
am counting on you all to help us with this survey.
Thank you. APPLAUSE>>Ajai Kumar: Thank you very
much, Sanjaya, for discussing in advance what you are
going to do in the survey. Thanks to all participants
who have shown interest in our community, what the NIR
community is doing. We will be
inenvironmentalling question and answers.
Any questions from any presenter? SPEAKER: ^ck speaker) can I ask,
not the question, but the comment for the session. My
name is tow hi row fuke so I can, working for.
Thank you so much for the all presenters and Chair
and Co-chairs to organize this one session.
I have one proposal. I think all
presentations were very … I think
presentation not to their NIR matters, so it’s better to
make this session more public, not the NIR SIG form.
Currently, we have the global in APNIC meeting and
I think this session will run similar format regional
economy report to involve more attendees. This is just
app proposal, but please consider .
>>Toshio Tachibana: Thank you for the comment. This session is
charter is exchange of information and experience
sharing between each NIRs, I think. But we in our
communities activities shows to the public is important.
So we as myself and the Co-chairs, will discuss about
the changing about the format of this session in future .
>>Ajai Kumar: I would like to add, this session is public.
Every information is available to public. Any
participant who want top attend, they can attend. It
depends on the interest of the participants.
The NIR which they are doing, they are doing the IP
delegation as well as the other. So as community, and
as a Chair, we have decided that we need to presentation
from each NIR, whatever they are doing, they should
report to community. That’s all.
>>Izumi Okutani: I just have like a elted suggestion on this
topic. I was actually an idea that I suggested earlier,
but I this at that point, many people thought that
people would like to keep the format of the SIG and so
without really changing the current situation too much,
perhaps maybe we can make it like, I don’t know,
a continuing session after the global report or
something, so after the global report when the NIR SIG
will follow up, so it will give the participants a sense
of continuation, it might make it asier for people to
maybe after hearing RIR, we would stay in and listen to
the NIRs. So that’s just one idea or suggestion .
>>Ajai Kumar: Thank you. We will discuss with Secretariat
for deciding the agenda time, et cetera.
>>: Ajai cume I’m. I just wanted to kind of
take the point which was raised by Mr Tomohiro
further. I think first of all, I was thank and complement
all the speakers for making excellent presentations.
But I think we can also look at because a lot of issues
that are there are of greater relevance to larger set of
community. We should see how we can actually have greater
participation on this community going forward.
I think we would also be useful to have see how the
various NIRs can work with each other. I think this is
one area where we have not seen much of discussions so
far. One of the things which this SIG could consider is
whether there is room for cooperation and collaboration.
One other suggestion which I was wanting to for the
sake to consider is a lot of we always say that a lot of
development of Internet and IPv6 is going to come from
Asia Pacific in the future. Paul mentioned it today
also in the morning. We need to seek what
special efforts NIR can play to actually realize this very
important goal. In that context, one of the things
which the SIG could possibly examine is today there is a
premium of $190 which is taken on that occasion of
IPv4, and is there room for reducing that, so that a lot
of these developing countries who find it
difficult to propagate and pro little rate the number of IP
addresses in their economies can take better
advantage of it. I think we should look
at various strategies that can help actually this
region take up the whole issue of
greater proliferation of the Internet. Thank you very
much .
>>Maemura Akinori: As a personal opinion, every opinion
which was raised is really interesting and my own
comment senior for the in conjunction with the relation
with the global report, I think the global report is
looking outside and if we do looking inside, I would
like to have the countries without NIR. That’s totally
different taste of the session, to have a deep look at
each country which within the APNIC region and another point, one suggestion is we had a lot
of fantastic presentation from the NIRs.
Then I would like to have the competitive analysis
like, for example, the member count and the other
activities so if NIR SIG people successfully said some index
and point of statistics, then comparing it would be
quite informative, if you can do additional. Thank you
very much .
>>Ajai Kumar: Thank you very much for inputs. We will
consider while preparing the next agenda .
>>Toshio Tachibana: It’s already over time, so do you have
any other business? Okay. Let’s conclude
this session. Thank you for participateness to the NIR
SIG. I think a lot of people coming here, I appreciate
for that. Sop see you next time in Auckland, New
Zealand, next March. Thank you very much.
APPLAUSE All presenters, please
come here for taking of group photo session. Thank you .

Danny Hutson

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