A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Global Warming

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Global Warming


Dr. Hayward: Thank you very much, Emma. Ladies
and gentlemen, it’s a real delight to be back in Hillsdale again – a part of normal America
– you know, this week is a heavy travel week: I’m going to be at Yale University on Friday,
where I’m going to do my best to point out to them that they have a lot of changes they
need to make if they want to be known as the Hillsdale of the northeast. And, as a few
of you know, I recently finished … I should maybe say, I recently survived a year as an
inmate at the University of Colorado at Boulder, which is Berkeley with snow, right? In a fit
of madness, they decided they wanted to hire a conservative to come try out for a year
… or, actually, three years was the idea, and I said I would try it for a year and no
longer. Boulder, of course … their idea of a conservative
at Boulder is a Trotskyite, right? And so, after I got there, I thought, this’ll be interesting,
I’m kind of a gonzo guy, I’ve been at Berkeley, how hard could this be? And I had a lot of
fun with them, because I get invited to all kinds of liberal audiences who wanted to see
this exotic zoo animal in their midst. And the first thing I would tell them is, “You
know, you have it all wrong. I’m going to let you in on a little secret. I shouldn’t,
but I will. Conservatives love Boulder.” And they would say, “Really?” And we love Boulder
especially for the “green belt” that’s around it. The environmentalists, 30 or 40 years
ago, put in a green belt to control growth and preserve their quality of life, and I
said, “The green belt is the best feature of Boulder. I wish they had one in Berkeley.
I mean, the green belt makes the quarantine so much easier to enforce. You see, it’s easy
to have our Tea Party picket line set up around the perimeter, and, you know, when a liberal’s
trying to escape, out in the real world, we round them up, hand them a bag of fresh, organic
kale, and send them back into the village. And, you guys, just stay there. It’s perfectly
fine with us if you wreck Boulder, and Madison, and Cambridge, and Berkeley, if the rest of
America is relatively safer. And then, usually, things went downhill from there.
I had a great time, actually. I was actually embedded, for a semester, in the environmental
studies department. And, boy, that was fun. I’m going to begin, tonight, with my conclusion.
And then show you how I got to this conclusion. My conclusion is that, decades from now, I
think historians are likely to look back on the hysteria over climate change today the
way we, today, look back on prohibition: as a comic misadventure that shows the harsh
limits of political enthusiasm directed against basic facts of nature and society. However
– and here’s the complicating part – whether we’ll avoid committing the folly of embracing
the energy equivalent of prohibition is still undecided. I’m thinking that we won’t, but
it may be a close-run thing, for a very simple and elemental reason, and that’s the environmental
movement, which is deeply authoritarian at its core, has an unquenchable will to power
that cannot be satisfied and will not be denied. And, so, the fate of this is in the balance,
as Al Gore might have said in a different way, and, as I say, we can’t tell, yet, whether
this will be looked back upon as a comic misadventure or a tragic misadventure.
Now, the formal title of my speech this evening is, “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to
Global Warming.” And I love this title. I wasn’t sure, though, whether Tim Caspar and
Doug Jeffrey weren’t being mischievous, a little bit, thinking that my, you know, double
chin … I was starting to look like Zero Mostel – you need to be a little older to
get that reference, I know. But I do like the title. But, actually, three funny things
have happened on the way to global warming. Three of them. First, the warming stopped.
Imagine that. Second, the policy agenda of the “climatistas,”
as I call them … or, an even better term for the climate crusaders is, “Thermageddonites.”
I didn’t think of that. That’s Briton’s Lord Monckton came up with that, and I think that
one’s really good. But the policy agenda the climatistas has been revealed to be completely
absurd. And I’ll walk you through that here in a moment. But there’s a corollary to that.
As a thought experiment, even if catastrophic human-caused climate change turned out to
be true, environmentalists are the last people we would want to put in charge of dealing
with the problem. Full stop. When I’m in a mischievous mood, I did this
at Boulder a lot; I would say to environmentalists, I said, “Look, let’s just quit arguing about
the science. It’s really tedious. But, only conservatives could fix this, you know.” And
that was always fun. The third funny thing that has happened is
something that no one predicted. There’s been some talk about it today at lunch and other
presentations, and that’s the revival of the oil … gas … energy sector through the
technological revolution of directional drilling and “rock massaging”–that’s what I call fracking,
“rock massaging.” No one saw this coming. As recently as ten years ago, all the official
forecasts, including of a lot of the energy companies–ExxonMobil’s annual forecast, British
Petroleum–they all predicted continuing declines in gas production in the United States, and
by the year 2020, not far off from now, the United States was predicted to be importing
20% of its natural gas from, guess who? And now, that has all changed. And the important
thing is this: this all happened very quietly out in the private sector, as was explained
at lunch today, and if our political class in Washington, in the media, had known this
was going on, they surely would have done something to stop it. And that’s what they’re
trying to do now, of course, but there’s too late, there’s too much momentum. Aren’t markets
and innovation wonderful? So, let’s take these in order. First, about
the warming stopping. Between roughly 1978 and 1998, a 20 year period, the catastrophic
global warming scenario seemed to have some evidence on its side. During that roughly
two decade period, the global average temperature rose suddenly and sharply by about four tenths
of a degree Celsius, and conveniently that was right in line with what a lot of the newfangled
computer climate models predicted. But then, as we say, the funny thing happened: it suddenly
stopped. Even though greenhouse gases kept rising the atmosphere at a steady rate. Now,
at first, the pause, as it’s come to be known, could be plausibly attributed to random year
over year variation, what ordinary people call, “weather,” or, what the scientists call,
a, basically, chaotic climate system, that they will quickly acknowledge they don’t fully
understand, and a couple other one-off events like the Mount Pinatubo eruption in 1992,
which changed some things, but now we’re going on 18 years … really, almost 20 years depending
on how you treat 1998, which I won’t do now, but we’re going on 17, 18, up to 20 years
without any warming, and all the models are starting to be falsified. The actual temperature
record is now falling below 95% of the climate model temperature forecast. In other words,
95% of the projections are proved to be wrong. Because there isn’t just one, by the way,
if you get into this misery. There’s several dozen different computer climate
models generating a different temperature forecast. And the record of the last two decades
is now falling below the lowest forecast for the future. All but about one or two of the
models are basically still in the … If this goes on for another five to ten years, 100%
of the models will be shown to be wrong. Because the basic theory says we should be continuing
to increase about two-tenths of a degree per decade as long as greenhouse gases are going
up at the rate they are, and it’s not happening. It is becoming the biggest embarrassment for
the scientific consensus since Piltdown Man. You know, somebody today asked Ken Greene
about, or made reference to the email scandals of the East Anglia climate unit in 2009. There’s
one of those emails from climatologist Kevin Trenberth, he’s one of the deep-dish climate
alarmists at Boulder, and he said, in one of those emails, and I’ll quote him here,
he said it was a “travesty” that climate scientists could not explain the pause. And that’s five
years ago, now, and we’re still pausing. They’ve been scrambling ever since to offer
a whole series of explanations, and the intergovernmental panel on climate change, the U.N.’s I.P.C.C.,
as Ken mentioned today, they’re doing their best to paper this all over and twist and
shout and do everything they can to try and cover up the fact that their scheme is failing.
I think maybe my favorite moment in the media … there’s only a couple people in the media
who cover this honestly … one of them I should give fair credit to is Andy Revkin
at the New York Times, who’s pretty environmentalist in sympathies but pretty much plays this issue
straight. Good for him. The other is The Economist magazine, which is otherwise very much within
the so-called consensus, and they wrote, back in March, quote, “If climate scientists were
credit rating agencies, climate sensitivity would be on negative watch.” Good for The
Economist. Now, I’m a glutton for punishment, so … this
is why Ken and I are friends, I guess. I read through a lot of the latest I.P.C.C. report
on climate science. It came out about a year ago. The science report is, you know, 1300
pages long or something. In particular, if you’re a glutton, I recommend reading chapter
nine. It is called, “Evaluation of Climate Models.” It’s 218 pages long, 218 pages of
very small print, and, Ken said you can’t quote it; actually, you can’t even read it.
That’s not quite true; it takes a long time to figure out what’s going on. You know, these
days, if the complaint made of people like me and Ken if we say the word uncertain or
uncertainty it’s bad faith. A chapter on computer climate models from the U.N., it has the word
uncertain or uncertainty 173 times in 218 pages, and it uses the term error or errors
192 times. I’ll describe a couple of these errors and uncertainties for you. What they
try to persuade you is we keep twisting the knobs on these computer models long enough
we can get it to match up with what’s happened. Except you keep going and you realize they
can’t even do that. And they admit these things very grudgingly and talk about how certain
areas of essential knowledge of how the climate system works continue to really elude our
grasp. In particular, clouds. Clouds and water vapor. That’s really important to the story.
So, let me quote one quotable part, which goes like this: “There remain,” this is a
quote, now, “There remain significant errors on the model simulation of clouds.” Next sentence.
“It is very likely that these errors contribute significantly to the uncertainties and estimates
of cloud feedbacks, and, consequently, in the climate change projections.” And, if you
really read it carefully and … ten times … you realize that they admit that it’s
possible that clouds … they admit that clouds could cancel out most of the forcing effect
of greenhouse gases. This is what people like Richard Lindzen have been saying for a long
time. Now, I’m not just a glutton for reading these
reports when they come out. I went to the trouble of finding some of the drafts leading
up to it. You can get people to leak these things to you. And one of the last drafts
before the final report came out had this sentence in it. In that same chapter nine,
which I thought was quite curious. Here’s the quote: “The ability of a climate model
to make future climate projections cannot be directly evaluated.” Let that sink in for
a minute. We can’t even evaluate our models. That sentence was dropped from the final report.
I’m sure someone said, hey, wait a minute, we can’t say that. Instead, after a lot of
mumbley-mouth stuff about, you know, why the pause is happening and we’re still confident
that we want to keep playing with our knobs, this sentence appeared, instead. This one’s
even better, actually, when you think about it. Quote: “These projections were not intended
to be predictions over the short time scales for which observations are available to date.”
Translation: pay no attention to our models behind the curtain. Just trust our judgment
that the end is near. You know, the great social scientist James
Q. Wilson used to say that social scientists should quit trying to predict the future because
they can’t even predict the past. I think the climate science community might well heed
that advice. Where is the missing heat if you just want
to go from the orthodox climate theory? Most of the climatistas say it’s going into the
deep ocean. And while that’s a plausible theory, we have very little data to substantiate it,
and some data that’s coming in recently suggests that it’s not happening. And we have even
less understanding about how that might play out in the future. Other explanations for
the pause include unusual western Pacific wind patterns–I’m not making this up–aerosols,
which means, you know, a higher level of particulates in the atmosphere, and, my favorite, increased
solar variation. There’s this thing up in the sky called the
sun. You may have seen it. And, what’s strange is, an awful lot of people, I mean, not just
ordinary citizens who wonder about this, but scientists, even, would say, you know, what
about variations in solar radiation and sun spots and the climate science community, as
always, says, no, and their official models, if you read them, say it’s a very tiny factor
in any variation in the climate, and so, for them now to say solar variation is driving
the pause, that’s interesting, isn’t it? How convenient.
We’re up now to something like 57 possible explanations for the pause. I think they’re
pulling that off a ketchup bottle. Right? Now, the pause and the admittedly persistent
limitations and errors of the computer climate models resemble in my mind the kind of anomalies
that the philosopher and historian Thomas Kuhn famously explained should constitute
a crisis for a dominant scientific theory. And while the climatistas refuse to acknowledge
it, this crisis is causing some serious second thoughts about the basic question of climate
sensitivity. In other words … Ken gave a short primer on this afternoon, if you were
here. It’s true that greenhouse gases hurry the temperature a little bit, and the climate
sensitivity models have always said, and they’ve always been rigged to say, it’s going to do
a lot! And there are more and more studies published in the peer reviewed scientific
journals saying, know what? We have been systematically overestimating climate sensitivity. It’s much,
much lower than we’ve been led to believe, and … really, what this comes to is, this
is a non-problem. Or not the kind of problem we’ve been told about. But instead of confronting
the fact that their cause has floundered mostly of its own dead weight, the climatistas have
ratcheted up new levels of bad faith and grasping authoritarianism. That’s the technical terms
for what they’re doing, I think. The result of the latest catalog of exaggerated
claims and appalling clichés is, you know, it’s endless, but the most egregious one is
one that I’m sure many of you have heard of or seen on T.V. It’s the ubiquitous refrain
that 97% of all scientists believe in climate change. By the way, they even use that word;
believe, like it’s an article of religious faith, which I think is also a curious thing.
And it’s not just climate advocates. NASA, a federal government agency, says … they
have a web page that says, that phrase, 97% of scientists believe in climate change. That’s
our government speaking, now. And, of course, the political suggestion behind
this is, if 97% of scientists believe in climate change, then, therefore, they must all agree
with the environmentalist agenda to suppress energy. So, where did this 97% figure come
from? When you explore its lineage, it turns out to be about as convincing as a Chicago
election. No, you can’t believe that, right? … The most prominent form of it comes from
a paper by a professor in Australia named John Cook at the University of Queensland,
and he published this paper in an obscure journal, and it’s just rocketed around and
it’s become the big thing. And what this study purported to do was review the abstracts of
11,000 climate science articles. Now, just stop right there. It’s important they say,
abstracts. No one’s going to read 11,000 climate articles.
Even a whole team of graduate students is not going to read through 11,000 science articles.
So they read the abstracts, fair enough. The abstract is always that one paragraph summary
at the head of any academic journal article. Well, here’s the abstract to the Cook paper,
which no one in the media seems to have the wit to read for themselves. First sentence:
“We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on anthropogenic global warming,
comma.” I’ll stop right there. Two thirds–66%–two thirds of the papers express no opinion on
human-caused global warming. Let’s keep going. Thirty-two point six percent endorsed anthropogenic
global warming. Zero point seven percent rejected it and 0.3% were uncertain. Okay.
So that means a third of those papers had an opinion on human-caused global warming.
So, the next sentence says this: “Among abstracts expressing a position on human-caused global
warming, 97.1% endorse the consensus positions that humans are causing the warming.”
Somehow this has become 97% of all scientists, when it’s 97% of a third of scientists. Or,
you might put it this way. You could just as easily say, 66% of scientists publishing
in the field have expressed no firm opinion on the matter. Or, still another way to think
about it is, this is the grandfather of all simple-minded tautologies. Among all the scientists
who agree with the consensus, are all the scientists who agree with the consensus. That
would be an adequate way of saying it. Now, initially Professor Cook refused to share
the data with anybody else to how they’ve been coded, and, what have they matched up.
That’s always a bad sign right there, isn’t it? But, of course, in the modern world, with
things planted on internet databases, somebody found the data. And, lo and behold, some of
the articles turned out to be not really about climate science at all. One article that was
billed as a science article was about U.S. media coverage of climate change issues. Strangely,
in those 11,000 papers, there’s not a single one from Richard Lindzen of M.I.T. He’s the
most prominent skeptic in the climate science community, who has been publishing on the
subject since 1961. None of his papers were included, somehow. And yet, this phrase … I
mean, you can’t go anywhere now without seeing it or, you know, get on the center for climate
progress without seeing that 97% of scientists agree. Or believe in, right?
Well, it’s clear that the climate establishment has become as narrowly intolerant as any department
of gender studies on a college campus, and for much the same reason. What this really
masks is a will to power, as I said at the beginning. There’s a pretty good new book
out on American environmentalism, called Climate of Crisis, by Emory University historian Patrick
Allitt. It’s not a bad book, I reviewed it last week in the Weekly Standard, and he thinks
that the next generation of scientists, like previous generational successions, will seek
to overturn the conventional wisdom of the current community. I hope he’s right about
that. Now, I understand the academic dynamic, but I’m not so sure. I don’t think it’s like
history, where each generation of historians likes to say the previous one was all wrong
about the American founding, or something, right? I’m not sure it works that way in science.
I think he underestimates how deeply the environmental movement is invested in the idea of catastrophic
climate change. But, that leads me to the second funny thing
that happened on the way to global warming, and that’s the still incomplete realization
of the sheer absurdity of the climate policy agenda. Now, global warming was always the
dream issue for environmentalists, because it gave them license to commandeer the entire
energy sector of the entire world. And, as energy is the master resource that enables
all other resource use, it’s the … I would say, the platform for material human progress
itself. Getting control of energy is the commanding height of human civilization. But, what they
have proposed is a transformation of the world’s energy system so sweeping and so unrealistic
that it would make King Canute blush with embarrassment.
And, here, I’m going to have to walk you through a few numbers. I tend not to like to try and
do numbers in a talk like this, because it can be hard to follow. I didn’t want to do
PowerPoint for the same reason as Ken, because numbers on a screen are even worse, in some
ways, because you can’t see em. So, I’m going to try and stick with me on this, and I’ll
make this as straightforward and comprehensible as possible. But, you begin with this. The
target of climate policy orthodoxy is an 80% percent reduction … eight zero … 80% reduction
in carbon dioxide emissions worldwide, not just the United States, worldwide by the year
2050. Eighty percent reduction by 2050. I call it
for shorthand the 80 by 50 target. No one actually knew what this meant in practice
until I and a few other people got after it. And … you know, you throw out these large
… 80% of something, and, you know, six billion tons of emissions. What does this all mean?
It’s hard to know when you’re throwing around these … my eyes glaze over numbers, right?
Well, here’s how this works, and I’ll translate this into real terms for you.
The big round number you start with is that … it’s changed a little bit, but this is
good enough for our purposes, here. The figure that the Department of Energy starts with
from a few years ago is … The U.S… . we’ll just use the U.S. for now … U.S. emitted
about six billion tons a year of carbon dioxide. That’s about 20 tons per capita. Twenty tons
for each of us. Now, 20 tons sounds like a lot. One little fact that’s fun is, each one
of us individually exhales about 800 pounds a year of carbon dioxide, just from breathing.
So, you can see, a nice down payment on the way to your 20 tons, just from breathing in
and out. So that’s not really that much if you think about it, then. Twenty tons. Now,
an 80% reduction … actually 83% in the Waxman-Markey Bill, but don’t worry about that … it takes
us down to about 1.1 billion tons. Or, if you want to just keep it simple, we’re going
from six billion, roughly, in round numbers, to about one billion.
Now, the first threshold question I got curious about was: when was the last time the United
States’ carbon dioxide emissions were that low? You can figure this out … takes a little
bit of work; it’s not that hard … you got to go through the historical data tables that
are available. And, the answer you come to is that the U.S. last emitted a billion tons
of carbon dioxide around 1910. Maybe 1905. That’s another calculation someone else did
that’s pretty good. In 1910 the U.S. had only 92 million people. If you do the math, that
meant we had about ten tons per capita emission. So, about half of the level we are today,
with 92 million people. However, in the year 2050, if the census bureau is right, we’re
going to have about 420 million people in this country. What that means is, if we’re
going to have to stay under a billion tons of total emissions for the whole country,
each one of us will have to lower our per-capita emissions to 2.5 tons a person. That’s one
quarter the amount our great, great grandparents emitted 100 years ago. When, by the way, their
incomes were, you know, a fraction of what they are today. Didn’t have air conditioning,
didn’t have flat screen TVs, didn’t have a lot of refrigerators. Didn’t have many cars.
You’re starting to see where this is going. I did look up … when was the last time the
U.S. was … I think, by the way, U.S. carbon dioxide emissions may have never been that
low, even in the colonial era, when we were only burning mostly wood and some whale oil.
But, from the data tables, I was able to figure out that the last time we were at 2.5 tons
per capita of carbon dioxide emissions was 1875. There is a technical name for this kind
of policy target. That name is Looney Tunes. This is not going to happen in 36 years or
whatever that time frame is off from now, right? There are a few nations that emitted
2.5 tons per capita that we can look at as possible models. Belize, Mauritius, Haiti,
Somalia … you get the picture. Desperately poor countries emit at that level because
they’re poor. By the way … this is also something that
any sensible person understands … really poor countries, what are their environmental
records like, overall? They’re really, really bad. Their water’s terrible, they cut down
all their trees, they overgraze their land, they pollute their water terribly … you
don’t want to be that kind of country. That’s not how you solve environmental problems.
You need to get rich to solve environmental problems.
What about those enlightened Europeans? Well, the best countries in the world that are industrialized
and wealthy are France and Switzerland. They both get about 90% of their electricity from
nuclear power and hydro power, which have no greenhouse gas emissions. And, they’re
compact countries, right? People don’t drive a long way in France or Switzerland. They
don’t have to ship to, you know, Paris to Lyon … they don’t ship goods very far in
that country. Agricultural goods or any other. Here, we ship stuff from Chicago to Los Angeles,
right? We ship things a long way. We’re not the same. But, even there, those two countries,
with all their super green policies, their per capita emissions are 6.5 tons per capita.
You know, two and a half times the target we’re told we have to meet by the environmentalists.
I could go on with this, and … I might go just a little bit more to give you a little
bit more grasp of this. I’m still on sort of large numbers, right? Per capita and all
the rest of that. Give you one more example of how crazy this is. Remember, our target’s
about one billion tons. Now, when the Department of Energy does these
assessments and gives us our emissions inventory, they break the U.S. economy into four basic
sectors. Residential: our houses, and apartments, and condos, and whatnot. Commercial: office
buildings. Industrial: our factories. And, transportation: how we all move around and
move our things. Those four sectors. So, remember. One billion tons for the whole
country in 2050. All four sectors. Right now, the household sector. Just living at home,
making our coffee. We emit 1.2 billion tons of CO2, just from our houses. That’s, you
know, 20% higher than a target for the whole country for everything 36 years from now,
when we’re going to have a whole lot more people. Now, if we have the same pie in 2050
as today, and that could change, but it’s worth using the same pie, or same share, it
means the household sector in the year 2050 would have to emit no more than about 205
million tons. Instead of the 1.2 billion we emit today. So, I decided to break that down
even further. To figure out some interesting things.
How many of you here who have houses … some of you are students, I know … how many of
you have natural gas in your houses? For your furnaces? Yeah … yeah, a bunch of you, right?
And that’s the state of the art for new houses. It’s much more efficient than electric heating.
Remember I said 205 million tons for the household sector in 2050 for everything? Today, CO2
emissions just from natural gas use in our houses, before you flip a single light switch:
237 million tons. So, our natural gas use today is already higher than what it’s supposed
to be in 2050 for the whole household sector for all uses.
I mean, the Department of Energy projections … they’re all saying, this is a joke, right?
You know, household use of energy overall is going to be much higher by 2030. That’s
as far out as their projections go, right now, is 2030. We’re supposed to be building
something like 40 million residential households in the U.S. I can go on with this. I have
sort of gone down … drilled down even further to point out that if you try and do this through
conservation … that’s what some of my friends in the Natural Resources Defense Council say
… let’s just do conservation … and are we really going to weatherize the entire housing
stock? Well, it turns out you can’t do that if you try and … if you run through the
numbers, what you find is, you don’t even have enough electricity to run your hot water
heater. Forget flat screen TVs or refrigerators. Same thing’s true of transportation. I’ll
just give you one last thing, here, and then I’ll stop with numbers. Right now, our cars
and trucks consume about 180 billion gallons of motor fuel a year. Now, again, if the transportation
sector’s going to stay within our total emissions budget, we’d have to shrink that down, at
best, to about 30 billion gallons. Well, the last time we consumed 30 billion gallons for
our cars and trucks and transportation was 1930. If every single person in the country
drove a Toyota Prius, in 2050, we’d still overshoot the transportation sector emissions
target by 40 to 50%. And that … I’ve left out airplanes, by the way. Airplanes are actually
small of our total, but it’s like 5% of our total fuel consumption, is airplanes. And
no one’s yet figured out how you’re going to electrify an airplane. We may electrify
cars someday, better than we’re doing now, you know … Teslas are kind of fun, but they’re
not very practical, nor are they affordable for an ordinary human being.
So, the clear implication of this target is that we have to replace the entire fossil
fuel energy infrastructure over the next three decades. That’s what they’re telling us to
do. And not just the United States, but for the whole world.
Even if it could be done at all, and I think it can’t, it would be a multi-trillion dollar
proposition. Let me share with you an interesting couple of sentences from the International
Energy Agency. They’re folks based in Paris, they do really good international energy analysis
… they publish a world forecast every year that’s really good … and, they were discussing
this problem. And, they said this. They make reference here, by the way, to the 450 parts
per million target, that’s part of climate … I won’t bother explaining that now, but,
I don’t think you need to know it to understand what the sentence means. Here’s the quote
from the I.E.A. in 2008: “In other words, the O.E.C.D. countries” … that’s, you know,
the industrialized countries of the world … “the O.E.C.D. countries alone cannot put
the world onto the path to 450 parts per million even if they were to reduce their emissions
to zero.” Pause there. What they’ve just said in that
sentence is, the United States, Europe, Japan … could disappear off the face of the earth
and the world would still not come close to the target of climate orthodoxy. Why? Well,
because China and India are growing, and Brazil, and, you know, Africa would like to develop.
So would the rest of Asia. And, by the way, they’re doing that mostly with coal. Let me
come back to the point in a moment. Let me continue with what the I.E.A. said:
“Even leaving aside any debate about the political feasibility of the 450 policy scenario, it
is uncertain whether the scale of the transformation envisaged is even technically achievable as
the scenario assumes broad deployment of technologies that have not yet been proven. The technology
shift, if achievable, would certainly be unprecedented in scale and speed of deployment.” This is
remarkably direct language from one of these international bureaucracies. And when this
came out, guess what happened? All hell broke loose from the climate community. They denounced
the I.E.A. and essentially they forced them to retract this statement. Next year they
said, oh, we can do it … you know, they went back to the usual happy talk clichés
of unicorn flop sweat and all other … you know, banana peels, and all the other things
we can power the world with. They got hammered for that bit of honesty. Because that’s what
the climate campaign is like. One of the things that’s important to understand
is that energy transitions are very long. That was true with past energy transitions
from wood to coal, from coal to oil, and now we’re making a transition in this country,
and others, to natural gas. Transitions are long for the same reason that the turnover
in our housing stock tends to be long. Our energy systems represent large, long-term,
fixed capital investments, and you don’t generally replace large infrastructure before its useful
life is over. Because that’s economically wasteful. It’d be like remodeling your whole
house because you don’t like the color in the kitchen and the bathroom. Or replacing
your 2-year-old refrigerator with a new model because it’s 10% more energy efficient. But
that’s the energy equivalent of what the climatistas want. They want a multi-trillion dollar outlay
to replace energy systems that are not worn out and, importantly, whose conventional air
pollution has already been reduced to the vanishing point.
Now, I’m pretty sure … in fact, I would bet a lot on this, that both Robert Bryce
and Mark Mills tomorrow, who are absolutely fantastic … they’re going to go through
some of the comparative defects of the current menu of alternative and renewable energy supplies.
That make the environmentalists wake up happy in the morning. I mean, like, wind, and solar,
and bio-fuels. Suffice it today as a placeholder until you hear from Robert and Mark tomorrow
is, they’re vastly more expensive and not scalable to global or even national needs,
and in many cases have enormous negative environmental trade-offs of their own. Ken mentioned a few
today about ethanol. That’s true of wind and solar as well. Meanwhile, what is going on
is, as in so many other domains … the Obama administration’s not waiting … going to
take executive action … the Supreme Court, in 2007, improvidently told the E.P.A. that,
yes, you can regulate greenhouse gases under the clean air act, a law written for a completely
different problem with tools that are completely inappropriate to this problem, even if you
think it is a giant problem. And, so, they have announced this very complicated and convoluted
plan to regulate the electricity sector in the United States.
And, as these things go, it’s, you know, 675 pages of the main plan, and then the 400 page
impact assessment that analyzes the costs and benefits, and it’s very hard to understand.
They emphasize their flexibility in announcing this. And each state has a different target
based on its carbon intensity because, you know, some states like … I’ve never looked
at Michigan, but Ohio and Indiana get about 80% of their electricity from coal. Washington
State gets almost none of their electricity from coal because they have all those old
nuclear power plants and all those big dams on the Columbia River.
So, different states have different electricity profiles, and they’re trying to take this
into account, although, of course, that’s where the mischief begins, because a bureaucrat’s
flexibility today is their mandate tomorrow, right? So, there’s all this language about,
we’ll have a menu of options, because, by the way, without getting into the legal parts
of this, they can’t directly say to an individual coal plant, you have to shut down or you have
to reduce your emissions by some unrealistic amount, because that would fail a legal challenge.
But they can do it indirectly, and bureaucrats are great at that. So look at this menu of
things you can do: conservation, increase your heart rate, and, maybe even, they say,
a cap and trade scheme between different states and different regions. And, although, you
know, again, if you peel this apart very carefully, it looks like a wealth transfer from red states
to blue states. Who knows what it will cost, but, the E.P.A. claims, with a straight face,
that this scheme will reduce everyone’s energy costs.
Now, I’ve been asking the question … there’s several states, this one student this afternoon
made a question about states with renewable portfolio standards. This is where we mandate
you’re going to get your electricity from windmills and solar panels. You can’t point
to a single state with a renewable portfolio standard where the energy costs have gone
down. Quite the opposite. All those states have higher than average electricity rates.
When Gina McCarthy, the head of the E.P.A., was announcing this back in June, I’m watching
all these unbelievable claims, and I just kept thinking, when is she going to say, if
you like your utility rates, you can keep your utility rates? That’s what she’s saying,
it was unbelievable. Contrast that typical bureaucratic dishonesty with Barack Obama
himself. I’m going to give him a little credit for honesty, here. Back in the 2008 campaign
he said this … some of you may remember this quote: “Under my plan of a cap and trade
system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Businesses would have to retrofit
their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that cost on to consumers.” End
quote. I don’t see why we shouldn’t take him at his word.
Now, I’ll just give you one more. One of the E. P.A. fact sheets. Again, a glutton, I read
through these crazy things. It’s … you know, I have no life, I guess. One of the E.P.A.
fact sheets says the following: “We expect” … this is a quote, here … “We expect extensive
and very rapid changes in the structure of the power sector.” Again, once you fight your
way through the fog of bureaucratese and learn how these things work, you understand what
they’re really proposing is to make the E.P.A. a federal public utility commission. And,
they’re going to regulate the electricity grid, now.
Now, the way the clean air act works, in shorthand is, is states are supposed to come up with
plans to implement it in their state. That makes some sense for conventional air pollution
for a lot of reasons I won’t bore you with now. Once this rule is made final, I think
next June it becomes final, the clock starts ticking, and states are supposed to submit
a plan within a year of how to satisfy these targets the E.P.A. has set out for them. That’s
a high order. There’s all kinds of problems. State departments of environmental quality
actually don’t have jurisdiction over electricity grids, so they’re going to have to get the
public utilities commissions, and these inter-agency task force, and … the bureaucracy’s going
to be wonderful. I am wondering, and hoping, especially in
light of the election results, that there are going to be a number of states who said
no to Obamacare will say no to the E.P.A. Because, by the way, the fallback of the clean
air act has always been, if you don’t do a plan, we’ll come in and do a plan for you
and impose it on your state. It’s so much better if you do it, because you’re closer
to things. Well, you know, if 20 states said, no, we’re not going to do this, and the E.P.A.,
yes, has the legal authority to come in and say, we’re going to impose a plan on you,
then, but I think it would break the E.P.A. to try it. And I’ll bet they’re terrified
of that idea. Which is why I’m going to be encouraging governors and state legislatures
to say, no. We’re not going to do this. There’s going to be a legal challenge, and so it’ll
be in limbo for a while, but I think that’s the right … No, we’re not going to do this.
Finally, on this, and then I’ll move to a conclusion and questions … The target emissions
reduction is just 30% from the electric power sector, which is only one of … which only
accounts for, what, 35% of our emissions in the U.S. overall, I forget. In other words,
we’re talking about maybe, if it really worked, a 10% reduction in total greenhouse gas emissions,
if it all worked according to plan. The E.P.A. touts enormous benefits from doing this. We’ll
reduce ozone, we’ll reduce particulate pollution. Of course, that’s what the clean air act does
already. It’s happening very fast, so they’re just proposing to do the same thing they’re
already doing, only in a different way, and more onerous. There’s one thing conspicuously
missing from the claims of benefits in the E.P.A.’s assessment: they make no claim that
their regulations would affect climate change. And that’s because it won’t.
You know, I tried to get a couple reporters to try asking at the White House press … but,
it would just punt to the E.P.A., but, the question would be, if you run full … assume
this plan works like a charm and you meet all those emissions targets. What difference
would it make if you ran that through the computer climate models through the year 2100?
The best guess is, it would change the temperature by two one-hundredths of one degree. Which
is, actually, you know, inside the margin of error. In other words, it makes no difference,
right? So, why are we doing this? Well … oh, by the way, and even Al Gore … someone asked
about… are you going to mention Al Gore? And I said, I wasn’t sure I would, but he
described the E.P.A. proposal quite revealingly as symbolic. Al Gore, in a rare moment of
honesty. The environmental movement is delighted about
this after saying they didn’t want to do it this way because they love bureaucracy, and
I think what they’re hoping is, is once you cement in place the E.P.A.’s authority, a
30% reduction can be ratcheted up to a 50% reduction, and then a 75% reduction, and then,
maybe 100% at some point, all on the authority of the E.P.A. alone, bypassing congress.
Let me move towards a conclusion and one last quick point, my third funny thing, which I
can do in just one paragraph, actually. Here’s … the point of this middle point of my analysis.
The second funny thing is: the cruel irony for the climateers is that the worse the dimensions
of climate change, the more farcical are their proposed remedies.
So, you know, we may try to close 500 coal plants, or about … still a little over 500
coal plants, but right now there are 1,000 coal plants under construction elsewhere in
the world, and my guess is, we’re going to build another 5,000 of them, at least, in
the next 20 years. Because, as the Chinese put it to Al Gore in 1998 in Kyoto: we don’t
understand you Americans. You expect us to be poor forever? And the Indian said to him
… this has never been reported, by the way. The Indian said to him, when he was trying
to bully them. He had to join in this madness. He said, you know, you got rich on fossil
fuels. Now, it’s our turn. When we’re as rich as you, then we’ll talk about emissions limits.
Well, that’s about 75 years off for India. And, so, the real deniers today are the climateers
who refuse to consider that their case for catastrophe has weakened, while promoting
completely unserious solutions that do little or nothing to stimulate the energy transition
they say they want. Their default position continues to be simpleminded exaggeration
or distortion of every possible angle. Know what? Somebody’ll say today: it’s warm today.
It’s global warming. Next week, it’s going to be really cold, here. It’ll be climate
change. Right? So, that’s the distortions. And the opinion polls show that the public
has a case of, what I call, apocalypse fatigue. And, so, they’ve rankly politicized this issue
and demonized any self-criticism even within its ranks.
You know, there’s this one lady … Judith Curry at Georgia Tech, who’s always been in
the conventional climate science community until five or six years ago, she started saying,
you know, I think maybe we have some things wrong, here. And we should re-think some things.
And, by the way, we ought to talk to some of the climate skeptics instead of screaming
at them. Well, guess what’s happened to her? She’s been cast into outer darkness and she
was the chairman of the, what, the geophysics department at Georgia Tech. Person of considerable
scientific chops. That’s what happens if you raise a dissent or a doubt.
Finally, I said that there was a third funny thing that happened, and that was the unexpected
revival of oil and gas. And, I want to use that to say … as I say, Robert Bryce and
Mark Mills will talk about this tomorrow in what’s ahead, especially Mark, he has a degree
in engineering from M.I.T. He really knows the nitty-gritties of this. And it’s true,
what people said today, what … Ann McElhinney said last night, and what I’ve just said,
the environmentalists are relentless authoritarians. On the other hand, think how depressing it
must be to be an environmentalist right now. And to see this surge in natural gas and oil
production going on that’s going to spread around the world, right?
I mean, for the longest time, the environmentalists said, we’ve just got to get to using renewable
energy and banana peels and whatever else because we’re going to run out of oil and
coal and gas. Anyone remember peak oil? Anyone heard of peak oil lately? And now the problem
for environmentalists is that we’re not going to run out of these fuels anytime soon. Again,
ten years ago, environmentalists were saying, you know, we’re for natural gas. It’s a bridge
fuel, they’d say. Now, they’re against natural gas. They’ve gone all John Kerry on us. They
were before natural gas before they were against it. And … you have to know environmental
folklore here, and I’ll end with this. As recently as 1998, that was when the first
Kyoto treaty was signed, environmentalists thought, hey, we’re on our way. This Kyoto
thing is going to work. In 1999, all the leading environmental groups in America said, the
leading environmental problem of today is suburban sprawl. And that’s when they made
a big push in 1999 and 2000, because they thought, well … we’ve signed the treaty.
Right? That’s a particular tic of the liberal mind, right? You’ve solved problems by having
signing ceremonies on the White House lawn. And if you had predicted to an environmentalist
in 1998 that not only would the Kyoto treaty go down in flames, that there would be a massive
revival in oil and gas, that the price of natural gas would go from $14 down to 2 and
it would suddenly be abundant as far as the eye can see, I think they might have marched
out into the sea and drowned themselves. Come to think of it, maybe that’s not a … anyway,
I will stop there and turn to your questions and comments. Thank you.
I can’t see very far, anymore, so it’d be good if you …
Facilitator: I’ll point em out. Thank you, Dr. Hayward. We have a couple microphones
here. Please raise your hands and stand up when the microphone gets to you and, also,
they will hold the microphone for you. Thank you.
Dr. Hayward: It’s just like a classroom. Students never want to ask the first question after
a lecture. There’s a brave fellow. Go, sir. Dr. Kenneth Hayes: Yeah, I have two questions.
Do you know where 2014 is targeted to be in terms of the hottest years on record? Is it
going to be in the top 10, or the top 20, top 50?
Dr. Hayward: Yeah, it’s somewhere in the top 10 or 20, yeah.
Dr. Hayes: Yeah. It’s headed to be number one.
Dr. Hayward: There’s dispute about that. Dr. Hayes: Well, we just have to wait another
six or seven weeks … Dr. Hayward: Right.
Dr. Hayes: … we’ll know the answer, but have you looked at the hottest months of the
year? Have you looked at May, and April, and June, and July? They’ve been the hottest months
on the planet this year. Have you followed that?
Dr. Hayward: Yes … if you look at the satellite data, it’s not looking that way. That’s based
on the ground temperature data, and that’s a big, furious controversy, as I’m sure you
must know. Dr. Hayes: I understand the data pretty well.
Can you summarize … Dr. Hayward: … And by the way, so what,
by the way. I mean, so, you want to have a debate here, fine…
Dr. Hayes: So what? So what, it’s the hottest … it’ll be the hottest year on record…
Dr. Hayward: Well, we’ve been up in the plateau, I expect all these years to be among the hottest
of the last century. Why is that news? Dr. Hayes: Well, can you tell me what evidence
you have that there’s been a pause in the warming? Can you tell me that evidence? Briefly.
Very briefly. Just a little bit. Dr. Hayward: I’ll give you three words: satellite
temperature record. Razi Lane: Thank you very much for your time,
coming out today, this evening. My question’s going to be going back to your talk about
Dr. Richard Lindzen, dealing specifically with climate models in and of themselves.
What, in your opinion, is the specific flaw with hockey stick graphs and stuff that the
I.P.C.C. uses, specifically, what foster things such as the Kyoto protocol and the U.N.F.C.C.C.,
and how can we go about addressing that in today’s modern era? Thank you, sir.
Dr. Hayward: Wait. Hold on, you had two or three parts, there. One was hockey stick?
Is that right? … Razi Lane: Yes, sir.
Dr. Hayward: … And then I.P.C.C. what? I didn’t quite take it all in. You’re going
fast. Razi Lane: Sorry. Yeah, basically just the
climate models, themselves. What the flaws are, how can we go about addressing those?
And, the hockey stick graph as one of those models.
Dr. Hayward: Yeah. The hockey stick’s not a model. That’s a temperature reconstruction
based on a whole lot of what we call proxy data. I quit following that, too, after about
… when did the national academy of science’s report on that come out, 2007 or 2008? And
… that was before you had the email … the email leaks that were so interesting because
what it showed is so many of the people who had worked on that didn’t care for Michael
Mann very much at all. It’s pretty funny. To read those. The National Academy of Science
has put a report out in 2007, 2008 about reviewing the hockey stick, and news headlines all said,
vindicates hockey stick! I read the report. Guess what, it said something else. I’ll have
to do this from memory. I wrote it all in a couple of articles. Toward the end, they
did several things. They criticized Mann and his collaborators, Bradley and the other guys,
for not sharing their data. Not being transparent. Second, they said … the National Academy
of Science, Gerald North at Texas was the guy did … they were given the data and they
looked through it, went through all the stuff, and they said, looks to us like this is only
really reliable back about 400 years. Before that, we’re making stuff up. That’s not quite
the language they used, but that’s what it said, and in their press conference they sort
of said, you know, we’ve overdone this whole thing. And that’s kind of where things were
left. And then, like I say, when the emails came out, I wrote two articles about it…
long articles in The Weekly Standard that just went through, saying, look what some
of these guys say about each other and about the limitations of their own work. It was
pretty revealing and pretty amazing. Partly, it was a “circle the wagons” thing.
They didn’t want to admit any of those doubts or uncertainties in their own work. So … and
now, of course, Michael Mann is suing National Review and … what’s his name, Mark Steyn,
right? And it’s a bizarre suit as a libel matter, and we’ll see how this goes. I mean,
I can’t imagine they really want to get into discovery on this. I don’t know what Mann’s
thinking, so, that wasn’t a model, that was a temperature … what does the past look
like, right? I guess, the other point of it is, the I.P.C.C. adopted, or, inserted that
thing in their 2001 report at the last minute. Most of the people who worked on … never
saw it. And that raised a lot of people’s ire. Because it seemed to be put in by the
politicians at the end. So, someone else? Man: Thank you very much for coming out and
speaking. Just a question for you. Because you alluded to this during your whole speech,
but never really explicitly said it. How do you separate the science from the politics?
In other words, you talked about the … it being described as a “belief” and then, all
of a sudden, this one lady was just going out and saying, this is what I found, and
then she was actually cast out. How do you separate that? How do you find the truth in
all the muck and all of the political banter? Dr. Hayward: Yeah. That’s a good question.
Did you all hear the question? It was, how do you separate science and politics, is that
a fair enough a re-summary? Here’s the basic problem, and maybe I should’ve
put it this way. Science tells us what is. It doesn’t tell us what to do about things.
I mean, a corollary position might be … let’s go back 20 … let’s go back to the late ‘70s
when, by the way, if you go back to newspapers … the leading environmental problem, according
to Jimmy Carter, was acid rain. Let’s study the matter. We spent ten years on NAPAP: National
Acid Precipitation Assessment Project. It concluded, in three volumes, that the problem
was real but overstated. But, then, what do you do about it? The report didn’t say what
to do about it. That’s what science out to be about, is describing
how something happens. Now, what happens here and, you know, the people who have thumped
the 97% business like to say: the scientists all agree that we’re doomed, and therefore
we have to have the Kyoto protocol? Most scientists are not very good at public policy analysis.
And a lot of them will admit that, by the way, and a lot of them, you know, there are
a lot of them out there. What happens is, the noisiest of them, people like Jim Hansen
at N.A.S.A., who I’ve debated twice and come to the conclusion is a manic-depressive.
You know, I think they … I don’t know. You’ve always had some scientists who’ve wanted in
on the action. That’s not true of climate, that’s been true of a lot of things. But that’s
always a problem in science and policy, and … yeah, we don’t do a very good job of thinking
about all that. So, someone else? Somebody there I can see …
Don Thorson: The point that I find quite interesting, if you listen to T.V., and they give you … oh,
we hit a new record today. The last record was 1935 or some such time. So many records
were set in the ‘30s, and maybe we exceed them by a point or two … by a degree or
two. I don’t know what was warming it up so much in the ‘30s. The other point is, very
short, there’s a very good reason they called Greenland, Greenland: it was warm.
Dr. Hayward: Yeah, no, I mean this is what I call the Groundhog Day aspect of the issue,
right? We go back to some of these arguments we’ve been having for 20 years, now. I mean,
I know one guy, Daniel Botkin, who’s now emeritus professor in environmental science at U.C.
Santa Barbara. He is doing this big … so, we try and find all these things in the past
to try and find out something. He’s going through ships’ logs from the 19th century
up in Hudson Bay. This is back when those British sailors would record, you know, what
tea they had in the morning, right? To try and see ice extent and see if he can match
it up, so we’re always trying these clever things to try and figure it out, but that
only goes back 150, 200 years, right? So here’s how this happens. There were probably
ten articles published today in the science journals on some aspect of climate. It’s the
big field right now. Maybe it’s 25. And you can’t keep up with them all. I’ve tried to
keep up with them the best I can in Nature, and Science, and some of the summaries, but
it’s impossible. That’s why I work on the policy of it. Let’s assume … again, thought
experiment. Let’s assume it’s true. Kyoto? I mean … as the gentleman was saying, it’s
going to be the hottest year. You still haven’t given any solution that’s in the real world
at all. Barbara: Hi. Two different contradictory things.
Both accurate, both within the last year. Both in the northern and southern hemisphere,
the Arctic and Antarctic ice floes are melting. That’s true, so far as I understand. Secondly,
Toledo, Ohio this last year had more snow than any time in its recorded snow measuring
history, which goes back to approximately 1880. So, some things are hotter and some
things are colder. Your comments? Dr. Hayward: That’s why most climate scientists
will say we have, at least in the short run, and even the long run, a chaotic system. The
polar vortex, that’s not that unusual. I think we had a lot of those back in the ‘70s.
We had a lot of really cold winters in the 70s around here. I don’t think we were looking
at it quite in the fine grain way we are now for climate reasons. Yeah. I haven’t looked
at the latest ice data for a year or so. So, the arctic ice cap is about, I’m going to
say … this could be wrong by … about 30% below where it was in the late ‘70s, when
we started the satellite measurement. And that was just steadily down, then you had
a big drop in … 2008, was it? Then a rebound, and … it’s not clear, yet, we haven’t had
enough to … this last year looks like we had a bit of a rebound up. So, we’ll see what
this winter looks like. Might want to see that for four or five years before you see
if it’s actually reversed trend. Facilitator: We have time for one more question.
Dr. Hayward: One more? … Okay. Man 2: The question I want to ask, kind of
following a couple points, is: you know, most climatologists in the mainstream tend to blame
carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions for causing temperature aberrations. What
is, kind of, happening with science’s accepting of the notion that perhaps something else
is to blame? I know … a Harvard researcher, I believe, Willie Soon went up to the arctic
… developed some charts … and he came up with the theory, and several others have
come up with the theory, that total solar irradiation was to blame …
Dr. Hayward: That which? Sorry? Man 2: Total solar irradiation. Basically,
solar activity. Sun activity. And also I know some scientists have attributed it to oceanic
oscillations. And so, you know, given that those theories seem to match up with actual
temperature data far better than carbon dioxide does, is there any growing acceptance in the
scientific community that maybe these things are factors more than human action?
Dr. Hayward: Well … the short answer is, I don’t know because … I mean, I’ve used
the shorthand of the scientific community, but there’s a lot of variation in the scientific
community. There’s a lot of popularity with, yeah, the ocean oscillations, that’s a well-known
phenomenon. There is a theory popular with people like Hansen, Jim Hansen. It sounds
a little odd, but black carbon. That the shrinkage of the Arctic ice cap owes more to changes
in albedo. What that means is: the snow’s actually darker. It doesn’t look darker to
us. But the sun and radiation balances all the rest of that.
It’s darker, therefore it absorbs more heat, and then it melts. Now, where’s that coming
from? Well, you know, our coal emissions, or China mostly, but … not quite sure about
that. But … so, there’s a lot of thought on that, and, you know, that does make a big
difference. If it’s that, that turns out to be fairly easy to control… without even
getting rid of coal, I mean, we’ve gotten rid of our, you know… we’ve got scrubbers
on our coal plants. China’s new coal plants are much lower emissions than the one they’ve
been building in the last 20 years because their air’s so bad. And, so if that’s true,
it might be a declining problem. The solar radiation thing has ten different
variations at least. And I’d be hard pressed to get into great detail about them. And,
so, I just, I let them thrash all that out. So, that’s about the best I can do on that,
because there’s a wide menu on all of those things.
Oh, that’s right, you said we’re done. Facilitator: Very good, yes. Thank you very
much, Dr. Hayward. The hospitality will begin here on the mezzanine
for our guests and students, you know what to do hopefully by now. Thank you.
Dr. Hayward: What are students supposed to do, go away?
Facilitator: Go on the left. Dr. Hayward: Oh, okay.
Facilitator: Very good. Dr. Hayward: Yep.

Danny Hutson

100 thoughts on “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Global Warming

  1. we cant survive ice and cold. Grand Solar Minimum. the Sun is quite with no spots. The sun takes 27 days to spin around every 27 days we Face the coronal holes and fast base wind with energized particles

  2. PLEASE, watch the TRUTH, the Left does not want you to see about livestock and climate …
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI&t=11s

  3. I KNEW THIS CLIMATE THING WAS ALL B.S A FEW YEARS BACK IN THE 1970s THERE IS A HOLE IN THE O-ZONE IT WILL GET BIGGER IT WILL NOT HEAL / REPAIR IT'S SELF; THEN IN 2004 THE O-ZONE HAS REPAIRED IT'S SELF GUESS THEY THOUGHT I FORGOT WHAT WAS SAID WAY BACK IN THE 70's ALL I KNOW I CAN'T WAIT TO GO BACK AND LIVE IN THE WOODS AND NOT AROUND THIS AREA

  4. I heard that the U.S. Government took action against global warming 20 years ago, and it's working. Does anyone know the details of this "top secret government conspiracy"? Something to do with creating high altitude clouds…maybe.

  5. This guy is a total quack.
    The science is here www.skepticalscience.com
    Wonder if he is still around to see South MIami and Florida flood, relentless droughts and floods and the melting of Greenland and the world's glaciers.
    It must be embarrassing to be his children or grandchildren who have to live with this quack's legacy

  6. I remember in the 1970's we bagged our yard waste and put it in a landfill and we were warned about the coming global cooling . Then we were told to compost our yard waste because it is good for the planet.
    Composting 1 ton of grass clippings puts 3.66 tons of co2 into the atmosphere.
    I wonder, should we go back to sequestering co2 in land fills? How would warming alarmist react to that suggestion?

  7. Humans were keeping warm using fossil fuels 5000 years ago. It is sad we still are. Burning fossil carbons is from the stone age.

  8. TWO QUESTIONS and ONE Thought providing answer!! Fill a container(glass or bowl) above the rim, with ice, then with water to close to the rim and wait til the ice melts? Where does the WHITE go when the snow melts??? For the correct answer to THE SNOW question,, I'll give you a list of ten(10) things not known before!!

  9. Climate is caused by ocean currents. The Gulf Stream in the Atlantic and the Humboldt current in the Pacific, take warm seawater from the sub tropics
    to the northern polar regions. If these currents transport more, the planet warms. If these currents are stifled the Planet will cool. If, GOD forbid, the currents shut down we will go into a Ice Age. If the Arctic Ocean wasn’t mostly enclosed the Ice would have melted long ago. The fact that there in a bigger opening between NE Europe and Greenland let’s in more warm water, is the reason NE Europe and Scandinavia is more habitable than Siberia. Water is the major element on this planet. Not atmosphere. The water is the reason for our atmosphere as it is.

  10. The lunatic climate change freaks, are so obsessed with the idea that climate change will be the downfall of mankind, I'm sure that they will be truly disappointed when they are proven wrong, and that they are in fact still hear in 12 years time!

  11. In my experience, you can quote the information from videos like this to AGW believers, and some get so angry it's not worth the stress to continue (I suffer from hypertension already!). These folks are brainwashed. It's almost like a cult.

  12. The science is settled. The suns activity influences cloud cover which influences temperature. Co2 does not accumulate in the atmosphere forever like we're lead to believe. It dissipates over time.

  13. What no one talks about is We do have global warming by humans and nature and both together .Thats the least of our problems the next horror is GLOBAL COOLING !Funny? NOT !! …

  14. Politicians and their elitist handlers are all self-serving parasites, liars and criminals. I will never trust one study, poll or policy they peddle to get whatever they think they can swindle from the public.

  15. Climate change alarmism – it's about power & control NOT science & environmentalism. Follow the money. UN IPCC used discredited models & cherry-picked data (that have failed in their predictions 100% of the time) yet they want us to shut down our entire economy & give them billions …. it's like a bad (communist) movie.

  16. Little known factoid: In the late 1970's, climatologists were considering ways to disperse black soot over the Arctic ice fields to melt them and slow their advance.

    I wonder what the "worry du jour" will be 40 years from now.

  17. The debate is settled, the science is settled. Man made climate change is a hoax. The earth changes temperatures and there is nothing we can do to change it for better or for worse. Now it's time to sit back and wait for the next joke from "scientists"

  18. Some one should send this to Greta Thunberg , she claims to know all about studies on climate change. Who is funding this agenda and coaching her on what to say and how to act. Their using fear to get you to submit. climate change is a Hoax . but wait for it they will use the agenda of Aliens invading next.

  19. https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/09/24/no-climate-emergency-mit-climate-expert-500-prominent-global-experts-write-in-letter-to-un/

  20. For starters, I cannot respect the integrity of this speech based on the clear presuppositional position. If his opponents are defined as climatistas, the speaker can never expect goodwill from his opponents if he has none of his own. It is hard to listen to a speech which is so clearly propaganda.

  21. It's not about reducing consumption but reducing people, the idea is genocide, the current population of the planet will be superfluous to the requirements of the elites.

  22. Climate Warming is the new religion that is based on smoke and mirrors and oppressive assertiveness for a private agenda. You cannot argue or reason with those who are self righteous. Yet, their evidence for their position is unsupportable. The frightening part is their attempts to destroy anyone who disagrees with them. That is the scary part. They just won’t allow an opinion that doesn’t support their views. Very dangerous.

  23. More CO2 more plant, more greens more animals, birds, insects to support the ecosystem on earth and as therefore to support people lives. I heard this from scientists that he supports animal free grazing for better fertilized the earth, to support agriculture and ecosystem.

  24. Interesting, you say all this and I agree but still they are making progress. More people are buying into it now, and now with this school strikes they have started to grab the next generation. In ten years time they will be the adults and will pay any tax added

  25. The Pope has an agenda.
    He believes that going to worship on Sunday and receiving the Eucharist will resolve Climate Change. Can you believe this ridiculous point of view?
    Promoting Global Warming is his way to fill his church pews around the world. Just read his encyclical that he gave to the United Nations. He keeps bringing it up.
    I just wonder, how many scientists are Catholic who supports the Pope?
    How deceptive can he be?

  26. Even more important is the question "what is the ideal level of CO2 in the atmosphere to sustain life on earth?" I firmly believe these climate activists are ignorant of the fact that CO2 is integral to photosynthesis, without which our planet would be a desolate, lifeless wasteland like every other planet in the universe.

  27. Gore said in 1996 that the whole East coast would recede by 30+ miles due to a sea level increase of 20ft. By 2016. It never increased in those 2o years, by a single Inch, Fear porn sells more books, he is a Charlatan. We can conclude that the man made climate hoax and their SICK use of autistic kids to sell the concept on the Masonic media is a TAXATION scam due to insane levels of greed nothing higher.

  28. Starting out by ridiculing others via greenbelt and quarantine jibe, is telling of what this jackass is really about!

  29. Good on us! (Australia): The 97% of scientists figure comes from a half baked survey from an idiot at James Cook University. Anyone who discounts the SUN's influence on temperature and believes CO2 and methane are driving temperature change is brainwashed. When I heard the CO2 argument, I thought; you can't be serious, surely there's a stronger argument than that??? But when I heard that methane from cows farting was also being pushed, I had to laugh. There are some really stupid and/or brainwashed people in the scientific community and Australia has a lot of them.

  30. Why does YouTube place a disclaimer below every presentation that debunks global warming? Oh, I get it. We don't want free speech anymore!

  31. VP Al Gore is far dumber then VP O'Biden having led with "Unintended Consequences" b.s. whereas "Sleepy Joe" just drafts along behind all the foolish speculations of others as a "Johnny come lately" wise guy.

  32. Great speech. Only one note: On Solar activity , from the many studies of SUN oservation , well there are some proofs about (more than obvious in MHO) correlation with climate.. now in 2019 we can have a look at Valentina Zarkova's findings in data gatering and analysis and finally the consequent predictive model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_yqIj38UmY&t=2s , or even before..in 2017 words from scientists expetrise such as Joanna D. Haigh , satellite data recordings do speach (no mr.Mann manipulation there) and are showing us all where the truth lies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1MPQYN6fnQ&t=292s

  33. 42:00 and following.

    This is for me the mindblowing small fact, that is easy to transport to all the alarmist sheeps out there!Mindblowing!
    If u believe, the models are correct … then what is the change we will get if all the regulations are performed and met?

    And even then – the models are designed to make the fglobal warming look drememdous, but they are not in reality. So We would even expect themodels to show, that the regulations would keep the earth cool, … but they dont! 😀

  34. well i'm old so i'll be dead not my grandchildren paying for water or food but you young folks will probably see it so take notes for history , you either right or wrong on climate change.but it will be your planet because I and the old rich guys lying to you will be dead .but you can live through it [ or your kids will ] my point is if they are wrong and climate change is not a problem then no crises, but if right then planet becomes hostile to our living style[ no water no fish food expensive]..so who you going to bet on? ???..remember old people don't care about you they've already one foot in the grave ,not their problem anymore..the oil companies would never lie to you for more profit [Iraq war for oil] would they???no trust the big corps they have your best interest at heart,they always have. .they're fair with wages and the way they treat the regular people right..so yes trust big business they don't buy people like scientists [cigarette companies] ps why have the glaciers on the mountains disappeared?????

  35. "You need to get rich to solve environmental problems"…..It's hard to know where to begin to address how deluded a mind set is, to make such a statement…in fact it's more deluded than the willfully ignorant, who say man made C02 causes climate change….The problem with so many so called climate skeptics, is that they think business as usual and (and the mind set that goes with it) is the way forward…..I wonder how many people can step outside of their programme to really see who they are what's going on?

  36. Carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant. Animals exhale CO2 and breathe in O2. Plants live on CO2 and emit O2. So if you eliminate 80% of CO2 you will kill off plant life which is necessary for having O2 in the air.

  37. Would not "Climate Crisis Deniers" be a more accurate term than "Climate Change Deniers"?
    Considering that most people with any intelligence would say that the climate changes all the time and has been changing ever since the Earth gained an Atmosphere.

  38. I guess the funny thing that happened on the way to global warming is that eight of the hottest ten years in recorded history happened in the last ten years, fresh evidence clearly demonstrates that CO2 and methane released by human activity are the culprits in global warming/climate disruption, warming and ocean acidification have caused epic heatwaves, droughts, wildfires, storms, floods, melting of the permafrost, methane releases, deaths of coral reefs (including half of the world's largest living thing–the 1600 mile long Great Barrier Reef), crop failures, and mass die-offs of species. Oh wait, that's not funny at all.

  39. If you think this is funny, call me when the water is up to your neck. You are no scientist, because of people like you, we are in the mess we are in

  40. And God Said

    While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease. Genesis 8:22

     I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. Genesis 9:13

     Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. John 8:12

    Rainbows appear in seven colors because water droplets break white sunlight into the seven colors of the spectrum (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet). You can only see a rainbow if the Sun is behind you and the rain in front.

  41. I know I'm not the only one here that hates the Wikipedia page getting shoved in my face.

    I have a love-hate relationship with YouTube.

  42. i dont suppose any of you republicans bother to fact check this moron? oh that's right, you republicans arent smart enough to fact check much of anything are you? thats why you constantly vote against your own interests, unless youre a millionaire, and elect f-tards that take our money and give it to the ultra rich, the military and wall street.

  43. Humanity is experiencing an existential threat so dire that the UN's IPCC gives us only 10 years to clean up our ways, or we too will collapse civilization . See how to avoid this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAsjgyD4duM

  44. The damage these "scientists" have done will stick with us for many decades. ALL of science should be absolutely embarrassed and horrified by this. I view them all as policy pandering, hypocritical, money grubbers. Whores, all of them.

  45. Oh my word – you thought things were bad in 2014? Now it's 2019, and Extinction Rebellion are demanding the UK goes zero carbon by 2025. It's bringing London to a standstill to underline this demand. Lunacy.

  46. Can you believe it? Just as 3rd world countries are just about to produce power with the same tech as 1st world countries did (coal, gas,oil) to get us where we are today, a movement started to say the world cant use that technology anymore. 🤔 coincidence? And there goes china buying up land in Africa, whatever next. Maybe be we should all put our armies together.

  47. when some moron with no common sense says the arctic SEA ice is causing rising sea levels that’s when you know you’ve encountered peak stupidity on the subject!!! even though there’s been no real rise in sea levels, easily debunked, just ask them to get a glass of water put some ice in it, measure it, then measure again once it’s melted and see if the level has changed!!! you don’t need complex science to debunk most of what they believe!!

  48. YouTube: stop forcing me to read your stupid definition of global warming at the bottom of the screen of every video with Global Warming in the title. WE ALL KNOW WHAT IT IS. 🙄

  49. "Climate Control" = Learn about it.
    And help people that are suffering from WMDS (Weather Modification Denial Syndrome)

  50. At 13:35, Dr. Hayward asks "Where is the missing heat?" and answers himself by reporting that "most of the climatistas say its going into the deep ocean, and while that's a plausible theory, we have very little data to substantiate it … and some data that's coming in recently, suggests it's not happening, and we have even less understanding on how that may play-out in the future." OK … but why didn't he address (and obliterate) the argument that the melting of the Arctic Ice Sheet (especially during the Summer) is an obvious answer that deserves to be addressed seriously, and debunked, if possible.

  51. Ninety-seven per cent of the world's climatistas believe in human-caused catastrophic climate change.

    "Life on earth is ending. YOU selfish bastards are killing everyone and everything.

    "GET OUT OF THE WAY. WE ARE TAKING OVER."

    THAT is the real "green agenda".

  52. The difference between politics and research is that politicians strive for consensus and researchers strive for the opposite.

  53. I'm at n my 50s and these alarmists ignored the millions tortured and murdered by fascism, socialism, and communism during and after WW2. And in my early grade school tenure there were two teachers in different classes (on the same day) told us the next ice age is 10 to 12 years coming and most of us will die. Maybe all of us would die.

    These tactics are bullying and gaslighting. And stealing money and power to controll the sheep with tales of nearby wolves.

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